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[–] [email protected] 152 points 2 months ago (7 children)

honestly I still cant figure out how to configure a network interface properly without using the old control panel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The goal is to move you to powershell

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Mostly 11 now. I honestly prefer it to 10 now, but that's with quite about of decrapification done to remove all of Microsoft's bullshit.

At home I'm mostly using Ubuntu, but it's basically covering firefox as all of my self-hosted stuff runs in thevbrowser and I don't game much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hmm, then I'm a bit confused, since my experience with Windows 11 settings app has been good enough to not need to go into the control panel for setting up basic networking, unlike with Windows 10's setting app.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Thus why im moving to 11. Lots of the PCs I work with are still 10 though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

You can now reach the network connections folder, using an option on the network status page. It's something like advanced network options. Still all the classic stuff, but avoids "control panel." I'm going to guess links like that are not going to be removed.

If they just outright remove all of that, you really will need to learn how to do everything in powershell.

[–] [email protected] 165 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You literally can't.

There's a ton of stuff you can't do with the new garbage settings.

Let's not even mention that on an operating system called "Windows" you can only have one "window" of settings open. And opening new settings will just replace where you just where. Which is extremely rage inducing.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

opening new settings will just replace where you just where

I don't use windows super often anymore, so I don't really have that usecase, but man. Just imagining it makes me annoyed and angry

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You probably should never use a Mac then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty positive on mac OS, as an OS it's technically quite good, but their preferences app has always been atrocious almost entirely for this reason, I want to have two preferences windows open to different pages please..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I hear you. I have always been a power user so I was pretty shocked when you could not open two file managers at once in OSX.

The thing about Apple devices is they work great, as long as you do it they way they want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can have multiple finder windows in OSX, thats perfectly normal, but you cant have the network settings open next to the printer settings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Well that was not the case with the last time I used OSX. You click on finder and it would not open a second window. This is not how Windows or Gnome/Kwin work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you have been able to right click (or i guess two finger click for apple people) and open a second window forever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, like I was saying. You have to do it the way they want rather than just click on it like every other GUI.

One thing I really did like was the use of the drop down menu. I really appreciate all programs using the same basic interface.

I absolutely hated all the Microsoft Ribbon bar nonsense. They have reinvented it so many times you never know where to find anything.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

yup. The couple of times I had to use one, the bad UX absolutely annoyed the hell out of me

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Got reminded yesterday when trying to find a way to clear and apps cached information.

Windows was a simple path, but osx needed 5 steps to find where osx decided to put it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I honestly don't understand why macs are so popular in IT. Flexibility and configurability are not the words that can be used to describe their system.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not you. There are many things you simply cannot do in the settings app.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

And if you can do it, it's complicated and convoluted. I miss Win32 settings panels, everything was so well organized and simple to manage.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

Yeah the new interface has restrictions it doesn’t tell you about until you try to apply new settings.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago

As admin and tech support, I use the control panel constantly. I use the settings app... for display configuration, I guess?