This article covers upcoming deployment.
I haven't come across overall Indiana sentiment on this yet
There are many things I'm unhappy about in this matter:
- Deployment of Indiana guard for something the federal government should be doing.
- Putting Indiana citizen soldiers in a very difficult position: having to deal with immigration policies in actual practice, political shenanigans, dealing with humanitarian issues when the primary mission isn't saving lives. We are good at war and helping save lives, anything else is asking for trouble.
- Combining immigration policy with border protection. I don't like that they aren't separate. I feel like it's all political games, but someone convince me that we can't control borders without barring all immigration.
- Crazy talk about federalizing a state's national guard.
- Crazy talk about States and federal government clashing to the point of escalation. I don't think cool heads and reason win the day anymore. I feel like the populous seems willing to support more extreme measures these days
- Separation of service members from their families
On one positive side, this will give 50 service members and their families a first hand view of a major topic instead of hearing it from the news.
I see a lot of comments conveyed unhappiness with Indiana governor and Republicans in general.
Any opinions?:
What should be done about the border security?
Is the threat of drug smuggling from across the border real or made up?
What should we do about fentanyl issues? I'm not interested/care about weed. It will be available soon/someday, just a matter of time.
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Isn't the "security" issue not really "immigrants are crossing" but "so many of them are vulnerable children we don't have the infrastructure to treat safely and humanely?"
Isn't that the exact reason why Obama declared the crisis in 2014, and why Trumps reaction to it was so derided?
It has very little to do with adult immigration and/or drugs.
Fentanyl comes through regular entry points not remote wilderness (though the border wall access roads have made remote drops easier)
If we were serious about drugs we'd offer mexico incentives to dismantle the cartels, legalize weed, and offer more clinical support for addicts to reduce demand.
We have tons of border guards, more than enough. Its important to be clear republicans are the most upset about legal refugees and conflate them with "illegals" as indicated by their media constantly portraying bussing of legal refugees as though they aren't legal. More immigration courts are a must.
I'm curious about more of this? Like the Afghans we brought over? Or are you talking about making it harder to receive asylum?
@MSgtRedFox @FlyingSquid @Alto @Fedizen @Gingerlegs @the_q @NocturnalMorning @iamanurd @ScottStarkey @givesomefucks @happybadger Obvious first step would be to pass the compromise bill that Sinema and Lankford worked so hard on.
I got the impression that Young would have voted for it. One of the things I liked about Young was his at least standing behind the people that were already brought here: Young: 'Nothing's More Important' Than Giving DACA Recipients Certainty
He has also supported tighter border security things, so he seems a little of both.
If anyone takes the bOrDeR cRiSiS seriously, they're showing that they're a hog who is incapable of doing better. I'm not going to take them seriously and they can go play in the mud with the other racist hogs. It's completely on-brand for Indiana and they're living proof of hwhite supremacy. Immigration is a federal matter and the National Guardsmen have a clear-as-day obligation to refuse this illegal order, so hang any officer ordering it and discharge any weekend warrior who follows it.
Same sentiment for you.
Is it also on-brand for people looking for getting rid of divisive society related matters to talk about 'hogs' and hanging people?
Maybe you meant to swap out officers with someone else?
What the hell is wrong with you? Go back to reddit to talk about hanging people there, they love that stuff. Hexbear, I guess you can talk about hanging people on that server.
We have a border patrol. We can give them more money like Biden wanted. We also have immigration courts. We can give them more money Biden wanted.
Is there drug smuggling across the border? Sure. Do we have an expensive and pointless drug war? Yes. Maybe that should be the drug issue we concern ourselves with at the moment.
And fentanyl? Not an illegal border crossing issue. Most of it is brought in by U.S. citizens crossing the border legally. https://www.npr.org/2023/08/09/1191638114/fentanyl-smuggling-migrants-mexico-border-drugs
This is dominantly why I hesitate to keep border security and immigration as the same issue in my mind. I know politicians will keep them together, but I don't think border security should be 'keeping out the illegals', I think it should be controlling everything/one coming in/out as best as possible. We also have a hard time finding contraband in shipping containers.
There's some pretty big fentanyl operations in China that keep the pipelines supplied. I wish we could get that a little more under control.