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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

the Green Party is bullshit. where are they on down-ballot elections? City Alderman? County Judge? Animal Control? Sheriff?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

That's actually exactly the problem on this one. They would need to have a state congressional candidate to validate the party's list of electors for President.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

They seem to have mostly School Board members.^[1]

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

And it seems like their ballot-access problem in Wisconsin is directly related to that.

In the complaint, Strange writes that Wisconsin law requires the people nominating electors to be the political party's state legislative candidates or legislators of the party. There are no Green Party legislators in Wisconsin.

"The August 13, 2024 primary was the last opportunity for [Wisconsin Green Party] to nominate a candidate for Wisconsin Senate or Assembly before the 2024 general election. But, WGP failed to nominate any candidates for Wisconsin Senate or Assembly, and a sufficient number of electors did not nominate a candidate by writing in any WGP candidate for Wisconsin Senate or Assembly," Strange wrote in the complaint.

If they were a real party, they might have actually tried to run someone for the Senate or Assembly. There's got to be some solidly blue district with a shitty centrist they could have actually challenged from the left.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean, no matter your opinion on smaller parties, they should still have the right to participate, that's democracy isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They should follow the rules. If my name isn't on the ballot, why should Stein's be there?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

your name isn't on the ballot because you didn't fill out the paperwork and get the required signatures. they do have to be actual signatures. Jill Stein does all that knowing she will be ignored, but she raises some money!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

hey you ain't exactly wrong. Jill Stein is just going straight for the office she will never, ever win. Republicans are steamrolling this by snatching up undesirable small-time seats and then being complete freaking loose nuts.

If Jill Stein ever gave a fuck, she would build support county to county. And we need that person. But it ain't her.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

State chairs are responsible for state strategies. There are actually elections regulations that, surprise, make it very hard to mingle state and federal activities too much.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not party politics tho. Again, where is the green party in state legislative elections?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nowhere without ballot access, which requires votes in federal elections in most places.

With ballot access they can all of a sudden play ball just by threatening dem chair to run spoilers.

It's not fast or easy. The system is built to prevent third parties from being able to even function, and you're using the results of those oppressive regulations to prove there's no point.

Register green, call your green state chair and run for state house once. You'll get a lot of info, strategy meetings and party training. Enjoy the education, fix your registration and move forward understanding the bit of the system you're trying to critique.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Register green, you can still vote for kamala Harris. I used to be all for third parties myself, but they clearly isn't going anywhere. Ranked choice voting is the bare modicum.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jill Stein is a Russian operative.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It's amazing how few people know this whole character arc for her. It made me really regret voting for her in 2016. I'm really surprised and disappointed they keep letting her on the primary ballot after the RT dinner, between that and being anti-nuclear the Green Party's legitimacy has irreparably tanked.