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Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz embodies everything liberal women see in their own fathers – except for their political views. For some, it makes them hopeful but also very sad.

He’s got jokes, enthusiasm and a smiley face that’s not even remotely trying to hide how he’s feeling. He’s Tim Walz- and he’s bringing major Midwestern dad energy to the Democratic ticket.

At least that’s how many white women feel when they see Walz in videos, riding the Slingshot at the state fair with his daughter, signing legislation to give kids in Minnesota free lunches or tweeting about his pet cat.

It’s in stark contrast to what some see in their own fathers - who often have more conservative political views. 

“He is silly. My dad used to be very, very silly and goofy,” Pamela Wurst Vetrini, a woman who recently compared Walz to her father, said in a viral TikTok video.

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A lot of us had moderate to conservative, educated, sensible fathers that we lost to Rush Limbaugh. That we lost to Fox News. That we lost to Donald Trump. And the cult of conservatism that has grown and grown and grown has driven a wedge between millennial woman and her father,” she said.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

LOL an opinion article from Haaretz about American politics.

And, of course, you'll be fine denouncing that paper when it supports genocide as being completely unreliable as a source.

But when it agrees with you...

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You have no idea that the context of citations matters do you?

a) it's an opinion article, I'm not linking it because of factual reporting, which indeed the Haaretz is unreliable on.

b) the point is that the Haaretz, which is trying to whitewash the genocide, is cool with Walz.

I would also cite far-right american newspapers if I wanted to showcase how the far-right likes someone and approves of their "silence".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cool. Show us how the far-right in America really likes Tim Walz then (one single positive comment about an event that happened years ago is not enough to show that they like someone, sorry). Especially considering they were all pissed off Harris didn't pick Shapiro.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Why? For what point? Can you only be critical of people the far-right endorses or are you just trying to move the goal posts?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For your point. The one you just made and I replied to. You do read your own posts, right?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I made no point that would imply the american far-right endorses Tim Walz.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I see, so only the far-right in Israel likes him. The far-right in America hates him.

Well, since he isn't running for Vice President of Israel, sounds like he's a better choice than the people the far-right likes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

he only supports genocide abroad and not at home, so he's a better choice

Israel is basically the US' puppet. They could stop the genocide at any point. Electing him and Harris means they won't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

In case you haven't noticed, there are only two choices that have any chance of winning and the team he's on is one of them.

So are you saying Trump and Vance would be better? Because it's going to be one or the other.

Also, remember that other post you made a couple of minutes ago where you said you were going to stop responding to me?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm saying don't cheerlead people like Harris or Walz. Don't portray them as cuddly dads or stalwart progressives when they aren't. Be critical of them and demand better.

Yet everyone here is trying to turn this into some lib-lovefest for Harris/Walz, dutifully portraying them in the best way possible, shouting down any criticisms, desperately trying to uphold the Burgfriedenspolitik. Almost everyone here has bought into the "it's the evil usurpers vs the forces of light" narrative when the truth is they're both differently colored masks for the same genocidal settler empire.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Everyone. I'm totally doing that right now. Look at me just lovingly lovely love on Tim Walz who I have said nothing about beyond him being one of two viable VP choices and suggesting that the American far-right doesn't actually like him.

Which is basically the equivalent of sucking someone's cock, am I right?

And I guess that whole stopping responding to me comment was a lie.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You are though, you really are adamant about upholding Burgfriedenspolitik within the dem base, I just don't think I will be able to explain to you what I mean by that within this context.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am? Please quote me doing so.

Because I can quote you:

what are you even trying to say? Is it just word salad to get the last post in? Just DM me, you can have it.

Seems to me someone has a bit of an honesty problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You haven't DM'd me so.... is this your request for the last post?

As for your adherence to Burgfriedenspolitik, it's demonstrated by your very first reply to me, dimissing my point because of the instance where I have a second account.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Once again, my reply to you had nothing to do with Tim Walz. I know you really want it to have to do with Tim Walz, but it was about you. Not him.

Unless you are Tim Walz. Are you Tim Walz? If so, buck up, little camper! You have self-esteem issues!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Once again, my reply to you had nothing to do with Tim Walz.

Thats my point! You ran nose-first into what I'm talking about when I say "dismissing my point" and "shouting down criticism"!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your point is that I'm part of a love-fest for Tim Walz by not talking about Tim Walz? Holy fuck, almost 8 billion people love Tim Walz!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can you really not see it? Are you trolling me?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No. I really can't see how I'm part of a love fest for someone I'm not talking about, but I am talking about you.

I guess you're having a love fest for Pol Pot right now since you're talking about me and not Pol Pot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Best of luck to you then, you'll need it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What exactly do I need this luck for? Pointing out other needlessly aggressive Hexbear users?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You'll need it for understanding other peoples point of view. Have a good one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Understanding the point of view of a Hexbear user and thinking the way it's presented is ridiculously aggressive and full of people who come across as they have no joy in their life and live to be angry is a good way to present that point of view are two different things.

This is not about your point of view no matter how much you try to make it about that.