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OpenAI has built a text watermarking method to detect chatgpt written content (www.tomshardware.com)
submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Am I missing something? The article seems to suggest it works via hidden text characters. Has OpenAI never heard of pasting text into a utf8 notepad before?

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Am I the only one who rewrites most of ChatGPT's output into my own words because it's "voice" is garbage anyway? I ask it to write me a cover letter and that gives me a rough outline and some points to make, but I have to do massive editing to avoid redundancy, awkward phrasing, outright lies, etc.

I can't imagine turning in raw ChatGPT output. I had one of my developers use Bing AI to write code and submitted that shit raw and it was immediately obvious because some relatively simple code has really weird artifacts like overwriting a value that had no reason to even be touched.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yes, but I use chatgpt to do the rewrites too

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

i use it to make outlines which are usually very good and then I use the class materials to flesh out the outlines in my own words. All my words but ChatGPT told me what to include and in what order.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

That's valid. And I'd be surprised if that could be watermarked.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

For me I find it sounds too much like a marketing person or something I'd see in an ad or a website so I "dumb it down" a bit to make it not sound too corporate. Sometimes telling Chatgpt to do so fixes this though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lol. AI gonna take over the developers job. Like that's even close to happening.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

LLMs aren't going to take coding jobs, there are specific case AIs being trained for that. They write code that works but does not make sense to human eyes. It's fucking terrifying but EVERYONE just keeps focusing on the LLMS.

There are at least 2 more dangerous model types being used right now to influence elections and manipulate online spaces and ALL everyone cares about is their fucking parrot bots....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Please elaborate for the uneducated

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, great read. Appreciate it. That was one example but you mentioned two - are you thinking of some of the broader disinformation applications in addition to the data gathering mentioned?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Look, I don't want to waste your time so let me tell you this is a subject I have been concerned about, researched, coded for, and posting about mass manipulation via AI since the 90s.

You can really be pedantic and nit-picky all you want, it really doesn't matter to me. AI is the second greatest existential threat we face as a species. If you haven't already been convinced at least to some degree of its danger, nothing I will say will change your mind anyway.

The most dangerous right now AI manifestation is in sentiment identification and control, the second is autonomous armed robots.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks my dude. I was just asking you an honest question. Appreciate the information

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Get bent in extradimensional vectors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You seem angry :-p

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

You seem blocked

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Few years ago the output of GPT was complete gibberish and few years before that even producing such gibberish would've been impressive.

It doesn't take anyone's job untill it does.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Few years ago the output of GPT was complete gibberish

That's not really true. Older GPTs were already really good. Did you ever see SubredditSimulator? I'm pretty sure that first came around like 10 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

They were good for about a paragraph, maybe less.

As soon as they reached the attention limit they started talking gibberish.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The first time I saw text written by GPT it all seemed alright at first glance but once you started to actually read it was immediately obvious it had no idea what it was talking about. It was grammatically correct nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

Idk it looks good to me. Straight to the main branch you go.