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Hello everybody,
It's time for a update on feddit.uk.
This time, it's good news, and stability.

I'll keep things concise, then elaborate later in the post for curious people:

  • feddit.uk has been stabilised, and we have access to everything we need to move forward with it.
  • The new domain name will not be used as the main instance, feddit.uk will remain the domain.
  • Emperor and myself are responsible for instance and domain respectively.
  • The domain has been transferred to me.
  • We will be working with Tom to transfer the instance to new hosting under Emperor.
  • The instance is currently running at capacity, which requires manual intervention every so often. This will be permanently resolved once the server is migrated.
  • Images may be disabled while the system is prepared for migration, other services should be working

"What went wrong?"
"Why has conflicting information been showing up at times?"


The honest answer is, for the last few months, there have been two paths forward. These plans were constantly being updated, and the needle swung between viability for Plan A, and Plan B, often at the last moment.

At first, when Tom wasn't able to respond:
Plan A, new Admins added, new admins carry on the work.
Plan B, new site made, Emperor and I splitting responsibilities to make sure we had a bus factor >1.

As time went on, we started down the Plan B.
Lots of long discussion over names, discussing with community members, registering domains, and getting back-ends set up.
I was battling ansible setup, when suddenly, we had admin, and swung back to Plan A.

Things calmed down a little, but we were still lacking back-end, and needed to discuss how things would work long term.
Eventually, we started having to make A/B plans again:
Plan A, start doing back-end work, and work out long-term plans.
Plan B, build a new site.

It all came to a bit of a head on Christmas
(when doesn't it? Never agree to do on-call over the holidays, folks)
feddit.uk was down, Emperor and I still didn't have back-end.

So Plan B started again. I put on Bridget Jones Diary, in the hope that my partner wouldn't notice I was about to spend two hours trying to build a new lemmy instance from scratch.
(Don't ever do this. They knew. I still need to make it up to them.)
And it was just about working.
But Emperor was unwell, and I felt it would not be a good idea launching with half the team unavailable.

A few days later, Emperor is back in business.
Great, lets continue with Plan B.
And I recieve a message that we're getting back-end access.
Plan A time. The needle swings again.


So that's where we are now. Plan A. Everything is now in place.
feddit.uk stays up, and we work on it.


Questions that might come up:

"When are you going to a new host?"
Once Emperor and I have had time to run through the process, and schedule a day to make the change over.
When we have set a date, we will communicate it.

"When are we going to 19.2 (or higher)?"
The aim was to perform the upgrade after the site was migrated.
This morning, the site was upgraded, and we are dealing with a few of the impacts of this.
(Tom has been very busy, and we're very thankful!)

"What about email verification?
Email should now be going out correctly. We may go through the list of accounts that have not been validated, and re-send the email verification.

Who is "Teasmade?"
Teasmade is the face of site processes. Validations, password resets.
If you message admins, you may get a response from them.
They may end up with a backstory and personality down the line.

"I like/don't like the name Teasmade"
We'll happily hear alternative suggestions.

"Why didn't you continue with migrating to a new site?"
Because even with full migrations, we would never be able to move everything. Now that we're able to improve feddit.uk, we aim to achieve a lot of the same goals, while keeping existing communities intact.

"Who is running things?"
Currently, it's a combination of Tom, Emperor, and GreatAlbatross (me). Tom may stay on as an admin post-migration.

"What happens if one of you disappears?"
Our overall role definitions are based on responsibility, realistically we could function on just one until new admins could be recruited.

"What is happening on the technical side at the moment? Can I be involved?"
Once the system is on a new host, I will do some writing up, and we will consider people for back-end access.
Until things are more settled, and we have change-control in place, we're keeping configuration simple.
There will definitely be talk about the technical issues encountered, as people may find it interesting.
In the meantime, if there are reasonable features you would like to see, and you're happy to send us documentation, we'll absolutely look into them.

"How can I contact someone outside of the Lemmy instance?"
We have a Matrix channel (run by emperor).
For general queries, you can email teasmade at the domain (just trying to keep spam down a little). And we have general complaince addresses (abuse/trouble).

"I wanted to sign up, but I couldn't/the email didn't arrive"
If you email Teasmade, we can sort it. We do have to do this manually, but we're happy to do so.

Other questions?

Pop a reply in, we'll do our best to reply.

Emperor, Tom, and GreatAlbatross.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for stepping in and giving us some stability!

Thank you also to Tom for working to keep the site up, alone, for so long.

Have you given any thoughts to funding? For example a Patreon or other fund raising sites. Not sure how many people would send you cash but I assume even £10 from a few people would help cover expenses and keep the site healthier.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

At the moment the cost isn't an issue but when we move to a new server and expand the storage for images we'll have a better idea of what we'll need every month. If a bunch of people chip in £1/month we should quite quickly be able to cover the outgoings and start building up a modest ward chest. And it's not just the money but the principle - I think we'd all be happier knowing that one person isn't footing the bill as they might disappear at any time. Instead, it's a cooperative effort that should guarantee the future of the site.

There are a number of options for fundraising:

  • Patreon is well known and lots of people will already have accounts on there.
  • Open Collective is popular on the Fediverse, for example the .world family of services is on there, and is specifically set up to be as transparent as possible, aimed at non-profit groups
  • Ko-fi was used by Tom and there are many alternatives

Ideally we'd want something with minimal fees that has enough openness that no-one should be worried about where the money is going.

We've previously floated the idea of a Finance Admin (plus back-up) who could sift through the alternatives and present the best options. They would then make sure everything is ticking over and the server and domain costs are getting paid.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Open Collective sounds like a great choice. I would be happy to donate £1 a month. 👍

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If a bunch of people chip in £1/month

Will happily be one of a bunch. Open Collective seems like a pretty good option.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

That's great thanks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

We've had a few thoughts. While we get everything stable, I'm happy to cover costs, as it's important that people have confidence in the instance.
Once things are in place, and we have upgrade/restore/backup procedures nice and solid, we'll discuss things further.