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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So that's how they're euphemizing ethnic genocide these days, huh?

Wonder what China is doing to prevent indoctrination of children with radical partisan CCP loyalism.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Religious superstition is not culture worth preserving.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm glad we have you to tell us what is and isn't culture worth preserving; we were at real risk of having a diversity of opinion for a moment there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well that's just objectively false. Like it or not, religion is a hugely significant part of history, and it's incredibly important for contextualization.

Besides, in the modern era, if it's not hurting anyone, why do you care? Let them alone to do their thing in peace.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Superstition is also a large part of Steve Jobs history, it's what killed him.
So would he have been better off if he had not been superstitious?
Exercising religious superstition is not culture, it's stupidity that harm both society and the individual.

Stupidity is a significant part of our history, that doesn't mean we should preserve stupidity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People have a right to be stupid, though.

A lot of culture, is irrational and or superstitious. Tibetan culture has a lot of that, Chinese culture as well and American culture is also no exception.

You may find that disagreeable and not worth preserving, and I'm even inclined to agree with that on many occasions. But who is to decide which parts of ones own culture can be done away with, if not the people practicing that culture?

Can I decide which parts of your culture don't agree with MY values and take that away from you?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

People have a right to be stupid, though.

Yes but regarding culture people always talk about how we need to preserve culture, obviously we shouldn't actively work to preserve stupidity.
And religion is stupid superstition and doesn't deserve to be preserved, and where it is demonstrably harmful to others, it should definitely not be allowed.

It's no different than Nazi propaganda and organisations being illegal in most countries.

Can I decide which parts of your culture don’t agree with MY values and take that away from you?

If parts of our culture is demonstrably harmful, it is in our own interests to remove those parts. Racism would be a good example. And we are working on it, but somehow people keep being racist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would that be worth taking away his autonomy and will without consent?

Make all the misguided excuses you want for what China is doing. It won't make it right. It was wrong when the United States did it to my family. And it is wrong when China is doing it now.

If China wants to help them. Then offer them opportunity and choice. If the opportunities and choice are better. Their culture will adapt and change to it. Forcing eradication of their culture through violence will only breed resentment and grievance.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago

Would that be worth taking away his autonomy and will without consent?

Wow congratulations, first real argument in any response I've received until now.
But they are not really taking away his autonomy by closing the monastery, they are only putting an end to a harmful practice that is illegal.
Now the part about harmful may be a matter of opinion. But personally I believe religious practices are mostly harmful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

China's artificial "culture" which was installed after slaughtering their own history, isn't worth preserving.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Finally someone that acknowledge that a harmful culture is not necessarily always worth preserving.👍
I sure hope China will become more politically democratic, but we must also acknowledge that China has made huge progress in improving conditions for their population these past 50 years. But I think the time for Communism has passed, or whatever it is they have in China.
On the other hand I don't see the 1 party system as that much worse than a 2 party system. To make a real difference, it needs to be a functional democracy.
But the 1 single advantage China has over most democracies, is to NOT accept religious special pleading.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Professing to the belief that slaughtering massive numbers of infant girls is an improvement of conditions, is a bit of a spicy take on these forums.

You can't do something that fucked up and just expect the entire world to pretend it never happened.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Now you are being stupid: What slaughtering is that?

The systematic control and surveillance of Tibetan monasteries by Chinese authorities represents one of the most calculated assaults on religious freedom in the modern world.

This is what it is about, and religious special pleading needs to fucking end. Especially when it's harmful to children. You can abandon a religion, it's not like for instance protection of nationality, gender or sex.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm talking about the Chinese people choosing to murder their own daughters at birth because the government attempted to implement strict population controls, and everyone wanted boys so they could make more money as adults.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's whataboutism and unrelated. Although I agree that was horrible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lmao. Sorry, calling it unrelated isn't going to make the world love China.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which I don't give a shit about, I'm just so fucking tired of people screaming about protecting harmful religious practices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sorry that you're inconvenienced by people making too much noise, as small impotent men deploy the powers bestowed upon them by corporate technologies to destroy their entire way of life.