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I figure it works just like Candyman.
Great, now they're gonna all see this and say we're paid by George Soros... So can we all agree to deposit our Sorors checks™ and not speak of this again? I'd really rather enjoy this handout moving forward....
My instance defederated from those lot
Before Hexbear ever federated with you, humerously enough.
Oh jolly, someone from .ml .
Don’t worry, soon enough you’ll be defederated too xx
Yep, I wouldn't doubt it, then probably dbzer0 will follow, and maybe even blahaj.zone after that.
Personally I don't really much for .world posts, but I do know the admins on .ml have maintained that they believe instances that are more open to federation will be more stable in the long run, and .world admins appear to want to remain somewhat friendly with the devs, so we are at a standstill.
.world will pull that trigger and then it'll become a little echo chamber that will eventually die out while the rest of us on the lemmyverse will watch and wonder if anything can be done.
Yes, the largest Lemmy instance will become a little echo chamber because it doesn't view fascism as "just a differing viewpoint that needs to be respected 🥺"
let history inform your opinion: there have been multiple reddit diasporas feeding into other social media platforms and at least 2 of them were larger than the one that's currently swelling the ranks of lemmy.world; every single one has failed once they turned into an echo chamber.
I generally agree, and I think that's why they haven't pulled the trigger.
Unless the tankies jump over to dbzer0 or blahaj because they feel so lonely since they can't troll anymore, those won't be defederated.
I wouldn't put dbzer0 and blahaj anywhere near the tanky instances
People said the same about Lemmy.ml, .world always wants a target.
Yes, .ml isn't as bad a tankie instance as hexbear and lemmygrad are when talking about the user base in general, present company excluded of cause. And I have heard bad stories about mods but I still wouldn't put it in the same bucket
Hence the sliding slope.
They want to peddle a persecution narrative, because it's the only way they can cope with the fact that, in reality, they're disliked because they run in a toxic fascist community.
Very 'humerously'. World took one look at pigs-shitting-on-their-own-balls spam and said "No thank you" to Hexbear's proposed federation. :)
Haven't seen PPB in a long time, honestly. Either way, it's still nice to recognise that Hexbear proposed an olive branch and .world turned it down.
Hexbear is well known for being good faith in those type of situations.
Other instances seem to have little issue with Hexbear.
Oh yes, just mean ol' world
Yep, Hexbear defederated from Blahaj because Blahaj accused Hexbear's trans users of "faking transness" and Blahaj defended chasers. I'm not trans, I'm not in any position to tell Hexbear's trans users what they should or shouldn't be offended by, but it seems like a reasonable reason to defederate from blahaj to me.
You put quotes there as if you're actually quoting someone (the admin, a moderator?); but I generally remember the drama around hex-blahaj defederation, and absolutely do not remember this part. It is also not mentioned in the links you provide elsewhere ITT.
This happened around the same time as everything else, escalating to defederation.
To add to my previous comment, I've just noticed your comment down below, making an even more explicit accusations against Blahaj: "some of Blahaj’s mods to attack Hexbear’s trans users by questioning the validity of their identity". It wasn't "some mods", it wasn't even one single mod, it was one random user.
You're spreading a nasty lie, and when revealed just hide and pretend nothing happened?
My memory on that detail was off, I was there when it happened but its been months. I'm not "hiding," you pointed out what actually happened, what's to talk about? There's still the defense of chasers and the general hostility towards Hexbear users, so simply saying "blahaj had issues with Hexbear" is still a one-sided take.
Happy?
In my previous comment I asked you if you're lying or just didn't bother to double-check. You made no response, and I would describe that as "hiding".
It's the most serious accusation against Blahaj that you've posted, not a mere "detail", so admitting that you were completely wrong about it is a fair thing to expect. (Note that you're also defending a sub that would verbally slaughter anyone who would post such false accusations against them.) Not much more has to be talked about, sure, regarding that part of the story.
No it didn't. The thread you linked is from January 2024, whereas Hexbear defederated from Blahaj already in August 2023. Even one of the comments there says "Is also deeply offended by hexbear just existing even though they defederated months ago".
Are you lying or just don't care to double-check your accusations?
I'd also point out that it's literally just one user's comments, which are now deleted by Blahaj mods, and not an actual admin's or mod's comments. Hardly relevant to characterising a whole large instance.
Least truth-impaired fascist.
This is the post defending chasers.
Whether you believe it to be defense of chasers or not, there is the thread where it was discussed on Hexbear you can read for yourself.
Additionally, calling me a fascist is childish, insulting, and wrong.
Yep, Hexbear had an issue with Blahaj, not the reverse. Not sure defending accusations of false trans-identity and chasers is the hill you want to die on.
I haven’t seen the behaviour that you are accusing them of.
Here's the thread where it was discussed.
I think I’ll take the side of everyone who haven’t defederated from Blahaj.
Ada runs a tight ship there.
I still think it was wrong of some of Blahaj's mods to attack Hexbear's trans users by questioning the validity of their identity, and consider that transphobic. I don't think everyone on Blahaj is evil or transphobic or anything, but I do believe those individual actions to have been bad and should've been called out by Blahaj's other moderators and Ada. Same with the Chaser bit, some trans people were fine, and others absolutely weren't, and rather than taking the side of the ones who felt it was problematic, they were shut down and silenced.
It’s more like Bloody Mary except you need to be looking in an online forum instead of a mirror.
Tbf for some, it works with a mirror too.