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In an interview on the Israeli Basketball Association's website, Israeli player Dor Saar said before the game: "It's known that they are quite anti-semitic and it's no secret, and maybe that's why a strong game is expected.

"We have to show that we're better than them and win. We talk about it among ourselves. We know they don't love us and we will leave everything on the field always and in this game especially."

Basketball Ireland's statement prior to the start of the game read: "Basketball Ireland informed Fiba Europe yesterday that as a direct result of recent comments made by Israeli players and coaching staff - including inflammatory and wholly inaccurate accusations of anti-Semitism, published on official Israeli Federation channels - that our players will not be partaking in traditional pre-match arrangements with our upcoming opponents.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

It's known that they are quite anti-semitic

I love it when isrealis reveal that they can't differentiate between their nationality and the religion

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

oh yeah, that happens a LOT.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

The 3 D's are a useful tool to tell apart antisemitism and valid criticism.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

This is your brain on ethnostate

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Treating people badly because they happen to be from Israel isn't political commentary.
It's antisemitism, plain and simple.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you'd read the article you'd know the Israeli team called them anti-semites first.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

That's because they foresee the future. Placing bets must be very easy for them

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

The same behaviour was shown towards Russian athletes with regards to the invasion of Ukraine. Judging by your logic that would be, idk, anti-orthodox? Russophobic? It's symbolic and has nothing to do with the their opinion of the people they are competing against. It's not antisemitism, plain and simple.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So what was it when the US boycotted the 1980 Olympics? Just unmitigated, unfocused meanness?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's anti nationalist, your equation of isreali = semites is actually the bigoted statement.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're doing it right now too! Antisemitism is hostility to, prejudice towards, or discrimination against Jews not Israelis. The reason why these players did not want to shake hands with the Israeli team is not because they are Jews, but because they are Israeli. Yes they are refusing to shake hands with them because they are from Israel but its not because they are Jewish. It's because their country (Israel) is comiting genocide. They would not shake hands with any country that does this

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

I bet they'd shake hands with the US team, despite the fact that the US killed 50x more Arab civilians in order to "defend their interests" on the other side of the world.

Holding Israel to a standard you don't apply to any other nation on earth IS antisemitism.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You didn't read the article obviously. And/or have an axe to grind

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

What the fuck are you talking about? That's not why they didn't shake hands. They were accused of antisemitism by an Israeli player, who refused to elaborate, and that's the reason the Irish team refused to shake hands.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

"Whataboutism" defined.

I am sure that if the US was killing as many, as fast, people wouldn't like them either. The truth is, Israel is killing more people than Russia right now and they are not popular either. Is that antisemitism too?

The UN says that since the start of the war, about 100,000 people in Gaza have been killed, injured or are missing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Israelis must seem like the perfect Russians in Putin's eyes.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

That may be more right than you think since Putin had long had a stance of 'get the fuck out of my country if you don't like me' and Israel was and important destination for those who complied.

About 15% of Israel citizens seem to be russian speaking, because of emigration from the USSR and later Russia, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Israel