Religious people are mentally ill and should be treated as such.
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No, its the irish team refusing to shake the hand of the israely team, not the whole country, this headline is misleading. Also, wtf is the basketball team of israel supposed to do if their political leaders go ham? i dont get it.
Also, wtf is the basketball team of israel supposed to do if their political leaders go ham?
If they don't agree with the current politics of their country? At the very least be very outspoken about it or just don't play at all under their flag. If you play for a national team in an international competition between nations, then of course you do represent the country. And that representation of course also includes current actions which many find at least very concerning.
Or you can just label anyone who criticises Israel as anti-semitic. That's after all what the right wing extremists of Israel do constantly to shit blame away from their disgusting actions.
Thanks for clarifying. The headline led me to believe that the team refused to shake hands with the entire nation of Israel, as is known to be the traditional pre-match arrangements of any game.
The point being that their action is misguided.
Also missed the point, that the where calling the antisemitic BEFORE they did anything I guess its justified.
I don't get your points. The headline refers to the Irish team rather than the whole country as you appear to claim, and the Irish team members refused to shake hands after the remarks by an Israeli player which has nothing to do with their political leaders. Maybe I get this wrong but I don't understand your comment.
It says >Ireland women's basketball team refuse to shake hands with Israel
Not the isreali team.
Yeah, if taken literally you're right, but isn't that clear in the context? The Ireland women's basketball team wouldn't shake hands with the whole of Israel, right? It's what is meant imho.
Well, it is common that the term "Israel" is used in a very generalizing way. "Ireland refuses to shake hands with Israel's Basketball team" would be misleading in a similar way, but this generalization is so common that people don't really notice it anymore
We have to show that we're better than them and win.
Kinda reminds of how German Olympics were held to show the arian superiority in sports and overall π
I don't agree with the other reply calling you an antisemite but that is still a huge stretch just to compare people to nazis. Have you never played a sport before
holocaust inversion is textbook modern antisemitism.
Now that is a fucking stretch. If you compare Jewish people with Nazis, don't complain when people call you an antisemite.
Jewish people =/= Israeli state.
yes, you are right: some israeli basketball player =/= the israeli state. [email protected] compared something a jewish individual said "We have to show that weβre better than them and win" to nazi ideology ("arian superiority"). Which is insane and antisemitic.
Moreover, comparing the israeli state to Nazi Germany is antisemitic as fuck too. There is no comparison to be made. It is trivializing Nazi ideology.
Go off queen
It is inerrant to sport to be political. People are competing in teams based on political borders. Issues won't disappear because it's sport. It's socially here and teams take these with them.
If anything, sports serve as a distraction to the general public so that issues can continue to be ignored
then dont compete against israel, but going and not shaking hands but still promoting (in a way) the israely team just feels wrong. its like going to qatar to play but wearing a rainbow flag, its virtue signaling nothing more.
Ireland's top players abstained
its like going to qatar to play but wearing a rainbow flag, its virtue signaling
People didn't even end up wearing rainbow flags because they were threatened with consequences. it was basically virtue-signaling-signaling
Yeah, embarrassing through and through
Inherent*
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