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According to a National Park Service news release, the 42-year-old Belgian tourist was taking a short walk Saturday in the Mesquite Flat Sand Dunes in 123-degree heat when he either broke or lost his flip-flops, putting his feet into direct contact with the desert ground. The result: third-degree burns.

"The skin was melted off his foot," said Death Valley National Park Service Ranger Gia Ponce. "The ground can be much hotter — 170, 180 [degrees]. Sometimes up into the 200 range."

Unable to get out on his own and in extreme pain, the man and his family recruited other park visitors to help; together, the group carried him to the sand dunes parking lot, where park rangers assessed his injuries.

Though they wanted a helicopter to fly him out, helicopters can't generate enough lift to fly in the heat-thinned air over the hottest parts of Death Valley, officials said. So park rangers summoned an ambulance that took him to higher ground, where it was a cooler 109 degrees and he could then be flown out.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

For those of you who don’t know Fahrenheit:

123F->50.5C

170F-180F-> 77-82C

200F->93C

109F -> 43C

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

So, basically it's like checking how close the water in a pot on the stove is to boiling by putting your hand in it, then falling and putting all your weight on that hand as it sits on the bottom of the pot, and being unable to lift it again for a few minutes.

Something like that.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (4 children)

For those of you who only know temperatures based on internal temperature of cooked meats:

123F-danger zone of most meats, some bacteria will continue to grow at these temperatures

170F- all meats including ground poultry are safe to eat at this temperature, but most people would call steak way overdone at this temperature

200F- start of 6 pack number 2 for cooking brisket, depending on what texture you're going for you might be able to pull it or drink another beer

109F- you trying to kill someone with that burger?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This makes me want to see someone cook steak in Death Valley by merely using the heat of the ground.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Maybe someone who used to be a huge asshole? Out there making sloppy steaks in Death Valley with the Dangerous Nights crew.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And for those of you who only know temperatures based on brewing tea or coffee:

123F: Probably insufficient for even fairly delicate teas. You could probably make "sun tea" at this temperature by leaving tea in room temperature water to be heated by the sun, but this is not recommended as anything below ~130F is considered the danger zone for bacterial growth.

170F: This is the appropriate temperature for delicate or green teas to preserve flavor, antioxidants, and prevent bitterness.

200F: An acceptable temperature below boiling (212F) for black teas and coffee where overextraction is minimal.

109F: Unacceptable for tea brewing, barely above body temperature.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

We make sun tea by leaving it outside (90’s, 35c). In the sun. It’s a bit like cold brew, it takes longer to extract the flavors.

It’s also bitter so generally sweetened with lemon juice. And some form of sugar. (Honey preferred.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Correct, I should clarify, you are likely safe brewing sun tea at those ambient temperatures because the glass of the brewing vessel will trap the sun and heat the tea higher than that, like a car traps heat on a hot day. You'll likely hit 130F+ easily and be out of the danger zone!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for translating. It is so frustrating when people only use their weird localized temperature scale.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hmm ‘tis an American news source

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

The Belgian burnt his feet in °c tho

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Thank you, it all makes sense now.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Yea, people look at me like a deer in headlights when I tell them that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know what -40 feels like.

I’d still take that over the other end of the spectrum.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

You can always put warmer clothes on. You can't keep taking them off.