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Thoughts on Third Worldism? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I have often heard ultra-lefts describe Marxists who oppose settler-colonialism and uphold AES as being "Third Worldists".

Looking at what people like Jason Unruhe have to say about the topic, Third Worldism does not seem entirely baseless (e.g. the proletariat in the imperial core more often being labor aristocrats).

So, what are our thoughts on Third Worldism?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

This is straight up my problem, western leftists act as if they are the most oppressed people on earth and downplay the sacrifices other peoples had to make. This is being defeated without even starting.

It’s a lot easier to start Naxalbari (and even that lost its goodwill in the few areas they control or controlled, up to now) in a place like India or do a coup in Africa.

insane statement, the life of a person is worth absolutely nothing in these places. In rural India cops or thugs straight up murder your entire family if they think you stole something from an employer/master, and you think you have it rough because cops use rubber bullets on you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

"act as if they are the most oppressed people on earth and downplay the sacrifices other peoples had to make."

I agree, some do think this, it's true.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The problem is that Africa and India are less industrialized; there are places to hide.

The fact that Americans and Canadians are strewn about but also mostly coagulated in the same areas doesn't help matters either.

Did you know that the USA has the highest prison population in the world?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Look i don't want to keep talking about this because i will get pissed off.

The people from the US won't have a revolution because there is no political will by the working class, it's as simple as that. And i won't change my views until the american working class does something to prove me wrong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They've done near-mass uprisings, at least, like 1918 to 1919, but yes, no real socialist revolution, it's true.

I suspect that as the USA and Europe lose more of their grip on Eastern Europe, Africa, Latin America, and Asia, we will see more strife in the imperial core (well, I certainly hope they lose more of their grip, but I'm cautiously optimistic!)

Hopefully, we agree on that, at least.

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