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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We use more things, but each thing has become vastly more efficient.

Cities have more street lights these days, but each street light is likely some form of LED now which is vastly more efficient than the street lights in the 80s

Computers in the 90s were horribly inefficient for the computational capacity they had, now we have smartphones that are 50x more powerful while their power usage is practically 0 in comparison

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So you’re agreeing that human energy use has increased despite efficiency gains.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, you've missed the point entirely

I don't think you fully understand just how efficient things have become.

An iMac G3 with it's 400MHz processor in 1998 consumed about 100 watts of power just running.

In comparison an iPhone 15 pro max with it's 3.7 GHz processor draws about 14 watts at maximum load and like <2 just idling

That's just the consumer end use electronics, power supplies themselves have gotten A SHIT TON better in the last 20 years. Through the 80s and 90s power supplies just were not efficient at all and a ton of power was... just lost...converting from AC to DC.

On top of that my statement of we use more things might not actually be even true, after I thought about it, we replaced a ton of gadgets from the early 2000s with a singular efficient power-sipping device. We don't carry MP3 players, CD players, PDAs, Digital Cameras etc any more nor do we really listen to a dedicated radio or stereo setup anymore (Audiophiles excluded).

So no, I agree with the other poster (who actually provided solid evidence, where's yours?) Total power usage is trending downwards thanks to efficiency advancements

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m not debating that efficiency has improved.

Total energy use by humans has increased and shows no sign of reversing. IDK what faffing around debating ancient CPUs is supposed to prove.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

They're called examples

Here's the link from the other guy https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/browser/index.php?tbl=T01.07#/?f=M&amp;start=200001

When the line goes Up ⬆️ that means usage is up ⬆️ when the line does down ⬇️usage is down ⬇️ if you look you'll see after 2000 the line is trending down ⬇️