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Belief is for things that can't be proven. She knows voting for Trump led to this, but doesn't want to admit that to herself.
You should read her words rather than just the intro to the article quoted in the OP.
She has admitted it. That's not a free pass to make bad decisions, but most of the quotes in the article are about her trying to change and do better.
I definitely have conflicted feelings about this: it's like when some former white supremacist changes their mind, gets the swastika tattoos removed and speaks out in support of anti-racism. They don't deserve a medal for saying "Whoops, I fucked up" after fucking up extremely hard, but is telling them to fuck off serving the greater good, or just giving us an opportunity to feel superior?
She has zero sympathy from me. Let her denounce Trump all she wants but I have no desire to consider her an ally. She knew exactly the kind of man Trump was the first go around and still decided to ignore it all to either hurt the people she doesn't like or believe the bullshit he said about improving the economy. If Trump weren't around she'd still have the same nasty values that'd make her vote Republican.
If she hadn't personally suffered for Trump's policies, she'd still have the same nasty values.
What's difficult for me is - now that she's learned the Leopards-eating-peoples-faces party will happily eat her face - can she extend that lesson to the Leopards-eating-peoples-legs party or the Bears-eating-peoples-faces party. Because if these people have to personally experience each of the obvious and horrible consequences to realize that the next charismatic ghoul is a charismatic ghoul, then we are no closer to a better world.
You're right and second chances are a real thing. But she saw Trump the first time. There were families ripped apart at the border and children who are still missing today. The person she gave a second chance thought it was okay to use live fire to disperse protestors and thought the George Floyd matches were racist against him. He ignored the safety of literally everyone when he tried to ignore COVID.
She doesn't get off easy because his bullying was known and she wasn't paying attention. That's the lesson of our age: pay attention or pay for it.
Coddling their feelings of inadequacy lead to Trump being elected twice, so telling them to fuck off can't be any worse.
If somebody leaves a cult and is taking steps to change their life, I believe they should be supported.
Yes consequences are a thing, but they are still a human being. The left needs all the support it can get. The more welcoming we are to people who realize their mistakes, the easier it will be to work towards a better future.
If they are not willing to change and learn after experiencing consequences, that is another matter.
The left needs to motivate the unmotivated, not waste time trying to peel off current or former right wing voters.
Exactly. People are capable of changing and the left is supposed to believe in redemption. This purity-testing dead-to-me bullshit every time someone forgets a pronoun or whatever is a cancer that's setting our movement and message back every time we fall into the trap.
Changing yourself is hard. We all deserve acceptance and support when we pull it off, for the good of all.
Ffs, this is how you got where you are right now, you did this after the civil war, and because you did, you now have nazis. You aren't ever going to learn this. lmfao.
This is a bad analogy. The person involved seems to be genuinely introspective and repentant. The south post civil war was unrepentant, and the north didn't have the resolve to keep control, partly because the north was also racist as fuck.
I'll bet she continues to vote Republican by focusing on blaming Trump instead of the party whose values he represents. She can say she fell for conservative talking points all she wants, but odds are she will latch on to some single issue crap and explain away why she just can't vote for Dems because they aren't perfect or something.
Enjoy your nazis.