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[–] [email protected] 170 points 2 days ago (3 children)

led crowds in chants of “free, free Palestine” and “death, death to the IDF” [The BBC said:] “The antisemitic sentiments expressed by Bob Vylan were utterly unacceptable ... " [Starmer said:] “appalling hate speech.”

"Free Palestine" is not antisemitic. Criticism of a nation state's armed forces is not antisemitic. Especially when those armed forces are objectively committing genocide.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm sure "death to the IDF" is what some people have issues with rather than "free Palestine"

chanting death for any group idendity en mass will always be controversial, even if it's for Nazis

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

No, chanting death to Nazi was never controversial. It wouldn't even be controversial if it was death to the Russian army .

You are denying Palestinians right to self defense by opposing the chant death to the IDF

[–] [email protected] -4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

You're bubbled, it's undeniably controversial to chant death to people, especially groups of people. By debating it you agree it's controversial, do you even know what the word means?

Please don't try to say I'm denying Palestinans the right to self defence because I don't want to chant death to their oppressors. My friend, that's a wild statement and you should pipe down

Next you're going to tell me I'm pro Russia because I don't agree Putin should be assassinated

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If you think russian soldiers can't be killed in ukraine then yes you would be pro russia

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I never said that, I don't think that. I have no idea why you came up with that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I said if. So do support the occupied figjting the invaders or not?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

How did you go from talking about an English artist performing in England, chanting towards an English crowd about killing foreign army, to asking if I support defending your own nation committing war crimes.

Do you think I'm supporting the horrors of the IDF because I refuse to stand up and chant death to the IDF?

I go to free palistine protests in my own country, I probably do more than most but I draw the line at calling for murder.

Extremeism is scary

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

How stupid can you be. You want paleatinians do do nothing when the idf is comiting all the crimes? Death to idf can only happen in palestine where they have the right to kill invaders

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I guarantee you can find droves of zionists that say "free Palestine" implies the destruction of Israel and is therefore antisemitic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Anyone who thinks those statements are one and the same is delusional and not even worth talking to.

If someone can prove to me they're not a rational human they lose my interest

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

zionist

delusional

Correct.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

I know many zionists in my neighborhood Facebook group getting mad about events rising fund to Palestinians

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

I think the issue is the other chant, now I’m not saying that is anti-Semitic at all as that’s insane.

For what it’s worth fuck the IDF, terrorist assholes.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pfft...

Only the rational and reasonable buy into what you're putting forth here...

Which completely and entirely excludes any/all MAGAts and other assorted fascist/authoritarian types that appear to be consuming gov'ts globally.

🤡 🖕 💩 💩

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Also excludes quite a lot of Liberals - a lot of people who've been brainwashed over the last 3 decades with the fake "leftwing" idea that "it's not Racism if your descriminiatory acts and judgements favor those of specific races rather than disfavor those of specific races", are having trouble processing the situation were the self-proclaimed representatives of an ethnic group they've learned to see as "victims" and "good people" are actually committing an extreme Genocide along ethnic lines.

I mean, many have change to the Humanist position that "people should be judged and treated based solely on what they support and they do, independently of race", by many if not most are still ridding the whole "the entire race are victims" idea and de facto supporting Genocide by attacking the critics of the depraved genocidal actions of the self-proclaimed representatives of the "victim race".

This shit would have never reached this level if it was only the openly Fascist being Racist.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also excludes pretty much every establishment Democrat

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Of course, it is both sides, the Republicans and the Democrats, who are causing a problem in the UK government.