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[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I tried to make the least offensive analogy possible in order to have a logical conversation around the topic. But it still got an emotional response. I don't think you're arguing in good faith.

The second paragraph is called projection. I never made the claim that those opinions are correct because they are contrarian, yet you keep making the claim that they're incorrect because they are contrarian.

I don't understand how being contrarian or not makes an opinion less or more valid. Who decides what mainstream is? Whoever gets more upvotes? We should never ever have an opinion that will get downvoted on Lemmy? Or is it a democratically elected process? In that case, the mainstream opinion in the US in 2020 was that the best person to be the president was Donald trump. Does that make it correct?

You're yet to give any argument other than "those opinions are wrong because they are contrarian"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not saying you're wrong because you're contrarian, most of the people here fall into the category. What I am saying is that using the fact that an opinion is contrarian is not evidence that it is correct.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And what I'm saying is that what you claim I claimed was never claimed by me.

Since the discussion seems to have derailed let me do a brief summary:

  • Original guy: here are some opinions I have
  • Other guy: your opinions don't make sense, some of them contradict other ones
  • Me: they don't contradict at all. It is perfectly coherent to have those opinions.
  • You (correct me if I'm wrong): your opinion is wrong because it seems you're a contestant for a contrarian contest.
[–] [email protected] -2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Let me put it another way. You are wrong in regards to trans participation in sports but not because you are being a contrarian. You are also wrong to use your contrarian stance to justify your opinion. Hopefully that clears things up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
  1. My argument has nothing to do with trans or sports. My point is that his opinions are not contradictory.
  2. Yor point has gone from "you are wrong for being a contrarian" to: "you are wrong because _____"

Fill in the blank please.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

For whatever reason we are not understanding each other. I don't think I can restate it any more clearly. I guess we just have to leave it at that.