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[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What did social democracy do to you?

[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

To me? it is lefternmost political movement allowed to exist in Polish public space, so for years it pretended to not be what it really is, the left wing of fascism, and i believed that.

For example when after completely disastrous "reforms" by AWS and UW (direct predecessors of current PiS and PO parties) in 1999, succdems won a most landsliding victory in post 1989 history of Poland, they realised policies that had nearly nothing in common with what they promised, but the usual neoliberal austerity. That did pissed off nearly all of their voters and in next few elections their results have been abysmal. Recently they got some more support and get a partial generational exchange, but they only went even further right, openly making coalition with right-liberals of PO.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Social democracy as a concept would work if those doing it would have a spine and not be traitors of the working class.

But whatever is sold as social democracy these days (or actually the last 20 years at least), I absolutely agree is a scam.

At least in Germany, there is no left party that is both realistic (not trying to be pacifist when facing bullies, or promising unrealistic things making sure they will never get more than 15%) and also truly acting in the interest of the people, sadly. SPD is the German version of what you said, slightly softer neolibs in sheep's clothing.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Social democracy as a concept would work if those doing it would have a spine and not be traitors of the working class.

No, it wouldn't, because the thing they want is still capitalism, and everything they do (riding on actual workers struggle) will be inevitably dismantled as soon as capitalists gain the upper hand again, as we observe time and time again. Socialdemocracy itself is a class treason and was born from class treason.