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Are we forgetting that the Japanese sided with the literal actual nazis?
This quote is from 1950 in Tokyo and is referring to a surprise amphibious landing in South Korea, which was the big win that the South Koreans needed to stop the North from taking over.
Rape of Nanking, Unit 731. The Japanese have commited, I'd argue, the worst warcrimes in recent history; their leaders also refuse to acknowledge them. Fuck the Japanese government.
yup.
but also:
On December 6, 1938, the Japanese government made a decision of prohibiting the expulsion of the Jews in Japan, Manchukuo, and the rest of Japanese-occupied China. This was described as "amoral", based primarily on the consideration of avoiding antagonizing the United States. Even after Japan and United States became involved in a war against each other, the Japanese government's neutrality towards the Jews continued.
Germany repeatedly tried to get Japan on board with persecuting the Jews and Japan always stepped back and kept a "nah that's your thing we're busy abusing chinese and korean people" policy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_and_the_Holocaust
Life is rarely simple. History too.
Speaking as a person of Asian descent, no one really cares about the Jews in that part of the world as much as the West does. Imperial Japan saw Jews-- who are mostly Germans--as, well, Germans. There are too few Jews in the Far East to make an impression on East Asians. Anti-Semitism is more like West/Middle East thing. That being said, I feel like anti-Semitism is a hate fad that has gone on for far too long. I get that it started when Jesus wasn't recognised as the messiah and Christians hated that, but it was a long time ago. And there are other minority groups who had been persecuted in the past, but now less so compared to the intensity that anti-Semitism has.
I'm not saying that other persecuted groups have had it better-- anyone persecuted is still persecuted-- but there seems to be a far lingering hate fad on Jews. The Irish and Italians in America were discriminated but now not so much. The Jews happen to be very affluent and intelligent, and therefore accused of "secretly running the world", but Asians are also stereotyped as nerds, tend to take STEM jobs which afford them more flexible social mobility, but no one accuses the latter of also secretly running the world.
Was there a significant population of Jews in Japan or China at that time? Or ever?
Very informative and nuanced, thank you for adding this additional context
But also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
a covert biological and chemical warfare research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that engaged in lethal human experimentation and biological weapons manufacturing during the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937–1945) and World War II.
Edit: I copy pasted the above from Wikipedia and was too lazy to edit out hyperlinks
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre
731 and Nanking are literally just the tip of the iceberg. That they weren't anti-semitic is the weirdest fucking take I've ever seen on Imperial Japan.
they weren't anti-semitic. what part of that link did you not comprehend?
you do realize you can abuse people and not be anti-semitic, you could be anti-aryan or anti-roma or anti-gay or anti-whatever, those aren't anti-semitic.
did you not read the whole "we’re busy abusing chinese and korean people” policy part?
No where do I say they were good people doing nice things lol. wtf
Let me clarify:
It's fucking weird and suspect that you think them not caring about the small Jewish population in particular means anything when they genocided 20 million people for not being Japanese.
all I was pointing out was that, while allied with the Axis, they weren't allied in all the ways. You're trying to pick a fight that's not there.
This was said at the beginning of the Korean war about the Battle of Incheon which would take place a few months later
Should be a giveaway considering the date, and location of the quote lol
Interesting quote from the time period, given his other hot takes from the Korean War were "Let's Nuke Half of China"
He actually got removed from command because he was genuinely too stupid to realize the USSR wouldn't let that happen without retaliation.
Not too stupid. He wanted the world war back.
I count that as pretty freaking stupid
There's far more malice than stupidity. I believe he was actually evil
Alternate timeline: MacArthur defects to the axis, leads Imperial Japanese troops in the crushing of the 1950 Korean revolution.