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Refer to this discussion FelixCress linked.
Up to your top comment ("I’m not sure “human shield” is the correct term here." [...]), you could say that you were just arguing semantics. However, your replies to leftytighty and Keeponstalin show otherwise:
What you said is, effectively, a defence of the IDF, by denying that that specific event counts as a specific war crime, and insistent (~twice) shift of the focus to Hamas' actions. Even if you say "I'm not defending IDF". It does give people good grounds to call you a fascist, so your comment in the other thread is hypocrisy.
It’s still unclear to me where I was being hypocritical. Disagreeing on the definition of a term isn’t hypocrisy, and I would still argue that the example used in the article - of sending Palestinian non-combatants to clear out buildings - doesn’t fit the definition of a human shield under the Geneva Conventions, which is: “utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations.” Rather, it more accurately fits the definition found in Part 4, Article 147: “compelling a protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile Power.”
As for the optics of criticizing Hamas but not the IDF - I understand how someone might draw false conclusions about my underlying motives. But to suggest that I’d be fine with the IDF doing something I would criticize Hamas for - let alone the accusations of fascism - is simply untrue. Of course I condemn all mistreatment of civilians, regardless of who’s responsible. That should go without saying. When I said that I'm not defending the IDF I meant that I'm not defending their use of human shields or otherwise mistreating civilians. Not that I'm not defending their broader goal in the conflict. What I got (implicitly) called fascist for that Felix is refering to had nothing to do with the Israeli-Palestine conflict. That happened in this thread.
If someone holds mistaken beliefs about me, that’s one thing - but once they start publicly spreading falsehoods, that’s where I draw the line.
What Felix says in the opening post here is either a blatant lie or a total misunderstanding.
At no point have I defended or advocated for genocide, or for the use of human shields - nor is that the reason they got banned for.
You do realise you're using here the exact same sealion as you did in that thread, right? As in: "I don't understand" followed by a gross distortion of what someone else said.
As already explained, the issue is not just disagreeing on the definition.
I don’t. I’m genuinely trying but I don’t.
What gross distortion? What exactly is the issue, then? It’s not hypocrisy or sealioning Felix was accusing me of. I honestly struggle to make sense of what I’m even being accused of here. Everyone just seems to be assuming bad faith, while I’m simply trying to figure out what I did wrong this time.
If it’s about me being annoying, pedantic, or whatever - fine, I don’t disagree. But my issue is with claims about me or my beliefs that just aren’t true. And if they are true, I’m sincerely hoping someone would point them out to me.
Given that you claim to not defend the IDF, and I don't know your "motivations" or "intentions" or whatever¹, I'll treat you as genuinely confused.
What's "sealioning", in a nutshell.
Sealioning is a debate tactic where someone keeps engaging in a debate through things like this:Ultimately, a sea lion makes the other side shut up or snap out - not through valid argumentation, but by shredding their patience. In both cases the sea lion can claim a victory. Now, look at your comments in the linked discussion - because they provide context to this one. And let us pretend that the IDF was indeed committing another war crime than using human shields, i.e. that your "ackshyually" was indeed correct². Here's what you see:
The only reasonable way to explain your behaviour there is sealioning: you shift the focus into semantics and Hamas, while claiming that you're just asking questions, and not addressing what others said...
And before you say "but my intentions" - remember, the only person who knows what's inside your head is yourself¹.
Now look at this thread. I said that you're still sealioning because:
You were sealioning back then, claim ignorance, distort what someone else says...
I said those things. FelixCress is claiming that you're a fascist.
It is not about being pedantic or annoying. It's about how your words are interpreted.
And, if you're genuinely not sealioning, a few tips on how to avoid being labelled as one here:
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