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I know your average zionist doesn't speak for the religion but it feels like they've been working overtime to equate their political ideology and national project to their religion. It's a mental mindfuck that makes me question myself if I'M the one being an antisemite when I call out the IDF for butchering children or settlers for running pogroms on Palestinians. Fucking pissrael and it's hasbara propaganda has now moved public opinion so much that taking a stance against bombing hospitals is akin to being a bigot.

FUCK stalin-stressed

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I have always thought that Jewish things are, generally speaking, kinda cool and neat. I have at times "stepped in the salad" in the same way as I might for any other group I'm not part of, but nevertheless I was still the type of person who'd regularly listen to a song about how the singer's "proud to be a Mountain Jew" — so I think I can comfortably say that I've never really been "an antisemite" so much as the opposite, someone who's by all means fond of Jewish culture. Ever since October 7, though, I've had to confront just how much "casual" Zionism was in the Jewish stuff that I had enjoyed up to that point: that Mountain Jewish song, for instance, midway through randomly shouts out the Mountain Jews living in "Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa, Netanya, Akko, Sderot", so now I can't easily listen to that song anymore; and the Jewish Museum in Oslo, which I had wanted to visit at some point, apparently has its staff posting Zionist bullshit on social media, too, so I guess I'm not visiting that museum any time soon, either.

The success of Zionism among Jews is a calamity in itself, really. Zionism is a force which is ultimately alien to working-class Jews, but imposed upon them by bourgeoisie both Jewish and gentile, with the aim of transforming Jews into servants of empire. To dehumanize others means to dehumanize yourself first: for Jews to destroy Palestinian, Lebanese, Syrian etc culture, requires firstly that Jews destroy their own culture. Herzl's Mauschel. Grün (or "Ben-Gurion") calling Yiddish a "grating, foreign language", and banning much of its usage in the colony's media. Et cetera. It's no different from any other colonial project.

So how or to what extent Jews support Zionism, doesn't really matter to me. It doesn't matter to me in the same way as the number of Yankees who support the colonization of Turtle Island doesn't matter to me. Colonialism is everywhere doomed, as a Soviet poster once said, and likewise any subscription to a colonial ideology is also everywhere just as doomed: Every single Jew in the world could be a Zionist, and anti-Zionism still wouldn't be antisemitic, because Zionism would still inevitably collapse under its own weight, and the day after, Jews would still exist, and the day after that, no more Jews would be Zionists, and nature would finally heal. I simply have no reason to question whether I'm truly "not antisemitic", no reason to mind any bad-faith accusation of bigotry, because I have built up what I consider to be a pretty solid theoretical understanding of what Zionism is and why it's bad.

Until Zionism finally collapses, though... Sheesh, basically the only Jewish content I can enjoy without feeling uncomfortable nowadays is like WWII-era Yiddish partisan music, and the odd podcast like Proles of the Minyan. It certainly makes me feel for any anti-Zionist Jews, how it must feel like Huey Freeman wearing a coat in a February heatwave to be able to see past this class collaborationist colonial ideology supposedly "in their people's name", how lonely it must be to have so little culture to call your own that hasn't been appropriated by colonizers, right?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

::: spoiler sad vent

makes me feel for any anti-Zionist Jews,

Hi. It sucks. I feel evicted from my culture, from my (incredibly complicated and antigod esque) faith, my traditions, and more. It sucks. It feels so utterly alone, specifically in the faith and tradition aspect. I cannot find an anti-zionist shul. And for a while i lived in a city that had very very few jews before the holocaust let alone after, and I just felt so fucking alone. Now im somewhere with many more of us, but even then i have to do a whole social dance to see if theyre zionists or unopposed to zionism, and somehow it makes me feel even more alone than before. At least before i was alone by virtue of there being no one (not quite true, but effectively no one). Now im alone by virtue of self seclusion or direct exclusion.

And being trans, finding simultaneously such joy and such pain in judaism as it relates to my experience of transness. But i dont have the ability to engage at all. Zionism has destroyed that for me. My family? The practicing ones are either zionists or not opposed to zionism. The non-practicing left our traditions with a vehement condmenation of judaism (which, fair. We are descended from hasidim, and my mother described her parents as "the most orthodox jews to attend a reform shul").

Anyway, sad rambly vent over

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

To dehumanize others means to dehumanize yourself first: for Jews to destroy Palestinian, Lebanese, Syrian etc culture, requires firstly that Jews destroy their own culture.

This seriously reminds me of a couple of Justin Scott’s TikTok/video essays about white supremacy, racism and the role of white people in deconstructing racism. I’ll find the videos later but his thesis is that at its core racism is full of unprocessed grief. The destruction of working class European cultures by capitalism and imperialism allowed for the much more widespread destruction of the rest of the world.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

I strongly recommend the work of Rena Branson! She is a modern Judaica artist who makes really beautiful and haunting folk music and is a vocal anti-zionist.

This record label is also really good and run by a neo-Bundist: https://borschtbeat.bandcamp.com/