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[–] [email protected] 78 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Where do you think pizza comes from?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

You clearly have never had Italian pizza. Not even close.

Pizza is American unless you want to claim every flatbread is a pizza.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Italian pizza is really different than American.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, usually it's a whole pizza, not one tenth

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Va bene per i bambini

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Fun fact, in many places, soft-serve ice cream is known as "Italian ice cream".

What we are seeing here is a slightly botched traditional Italian lunch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

slightly

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In many places

In very few places ftfy

[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Like all things, we have seized it and made it our own. Like how getting Chinese food in an American restaurant only vaguely resembles Chinese cuisine. 💪

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It's Chinese inspired American food.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, most of what I've seen of Chinese cuisine looks like dog yack, so I think we got the better end of the deal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Real, eaten-in-China Chinese food is amazing. Highly regional, though, so you may love one region's cuisine and not another's. Some of the best food on earth for sure, though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Also, we Costco-sized it. That is a single slice of pizza in that photo.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, tomatoes are a fruit native to the Americas, so even though pizza was invented in Italy, its invention is still tied to the America side of the Atlantic in some ways. Pizza has a very interesting past!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pizza existed before they had tomatoes tho

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would argue that the modern understanding of pizza in Italy and across the globe is one that includes tomatoes. Things prior to that called pizza would likely not pass as pizza today. And it's pretty accepted that pizza and tomatoes are very linked. Imo you're being pedantic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Guess you never heard of pizza bianca then. Please try not to formulate grand theories before knowing just a sliver of the involved facts, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Arguing that the history of pizza is not deeply intertwined with tomatoes is a pretty weird hill to die on

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

To be fair Chinese food in Europe doesn't have much to do with actual Chinese food either

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Depends on the restaurant, but in general - yes, proper Chinese is rare.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dude I had sweet and sour chicken at a Chinese food joint in a mall in chemnitz Germany, it was a friggin schnitzel. Just with sweet sour sauce. And instead of potatoes it was a ball of rice lol. I found the picture I took here 🤣:

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

If I wasn't paying attention, looks like katsu curry until I notice the sauce looks like pure sugar. But ya nowadays everyone's got their schnitzel variant 😂

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Sure, but the Americanized versions of Italian, German, or Chinese foods were made by immigrants adapting their traditional recipes with ingredients they had on hand.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I can't speak for German or Chinese food, but having been to Italy, a good NYC slice beats anything the Italians have to offer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Hard disagree there. I've visited both and tried both. NYC pizza is disappointingly average.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

Just like how italian, German, and Chinese foods came about! America is just more recent and we tend to keep the labels of the influences ao it is more obvious.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Well, that and adjusting to suit mainstream tastes. Like how garlic bread is largely a Western introduction in Korea, but is preferred sweet there instead of savory.

Development of cuisine is a fascinating thing!