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She Won. They Didn't Just Change the Machines. They Rewired the Election.
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See, this is exactly what the conservatives say when you ask "well, how did Trump win in 2016 and 2024 if the elections are rigged?" Obviously, the sheer power of True American Patriots overwhelmed the Democratic rigging. It's not any more sensible when we do it.
I can't say I read everything here, but what I did looked mostly like "these numbers seem funny to me." Which is reason to look further, sure, but far short of definitive proof. Is there any reason to believe the vote tabulators were running this compromised code, or had default passwords set? Is there an independent statistics expert saying "they're right, this is suspicious"? A confession by one of what must have been hundreds of co-conspirators in this, apparently, multi-year project that has perfectly evaded scrutiny until these folks found the truth? It's an extraordinary claim, and the bar for believing it hasn't even come close to being met.
Again, no, conservatives have ZERO fucking evidence. Trump got laughed out of courts by judges he appointed. He didn’t even try to lie he brought like tweets of pictures of people carrying boxes and said ‘look! Fraud!’
It was completely brain dead.
There are at least three independent groups who have been publicly researching it since just after the election. The group i linked also gave it to two separate independent researchers and made sure they came to the conclusions. The odds Trump could’ve won the way he did is one in 50 octillion
You telling me the guy who done a fake elector scheme, tried to solicit fake votes from states, and turn over the election illegitimately didn’t fucking try to cheat in every way possible? Give me a break. The dems didn’t check or knowingly turned a blind eye.
It wouldn’t have taken hundreds of people, very few. The lawsuits will progress, the bar for me giving it credibility is lack of a coherent debunk.
https://dissentinbloom.substack.com/p/im-not-saying-pennsylvania-was-stolen
https://www.wjbf.com/business/press-releases/accesswire/1033393/retransmission-2024-presidential-and-senate-results-called-into-question-as-lawsuit-advances/
https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the
https://dissentinbloom.substack.com/p/the-machines-were-changed-before
The breathless reporting and big numbers immediately set off my BS detector. Usually, when a stat says something like "the odds of this happening purely by chance are 1 In a hojillion!" it's just bad statistics, for example saying "even if each of my windows had a 75% chance of breaking in the hurricane, the odds that all of them would break is less than 1%, so clearly someone sabotaged my house!" No, they were all in the same hurricane, not independent random hurricanes, you can't just multiply the probabilities like that. It's very easy to do bad stats and come up with wild results.
It also looks like this is mostly focused on Pennsylvania, where there's actually more to look at. Again, sure! It's worth looking into. Let's see evidence that this crosses state lines and isn't just Pennsylvania. Let's see evidence that the machines really were vulnerable and not just that they could've been. Let's find someone who will name names and give specifics about this conspiracy. If this stuff is true, it'll get picked up by more sober voices that aren't yelling "it was stolen, it was stolen, don't you all see???" and then it might be worth tuning in.
Your hurricane analogy doesn’t hold because the point isn’t that a bunch of unrelated events magically lined up, it’s that the same anomalies showed up in the same voting systems, in multiple places, under almost identical conditions. The statistical models don’t treat these like random broken windows, they test how likely the same patterns could happen systematically without manipulation.
Pennsylvania is just the latest focus partly because Trump basically said it himself:
What does that even mean if it’s not hinting at interference?
And it’s not just Pennsylvania. There is detailed analysis for Clark County, Nevada, drop-off rate studies covering six states, and ongoing work expanding that to eleven more full states.
More importantly, this is not just about statistics. In Coffee County, Georgia, Trump lawyer Sidney Powell actually hired a tech team to access and copy Dominion voting system software and data. There is security footage, emails, invoices, and sworn testimony proving it happened. Powell was indicted for conspiracy to commit computer crimes and ended up pleading guilty to multiple counts, admitting what they did and agreeing to testify against others.
This was not a one-off either. Similar breaches happened in Michigan and Colorado, which is why in December 2023 almost two dozen well-known election security experts and computer scientists signed an open letter warning that Trump allies were behind a coordinated multistate effort to breach voting software that runs most of the country’s ballots.
It’s always projection with these people; if they’re accusing the other side of doing something, chances are they’re the ones doing it. It’s like your daft cousin who keeps yelling “Stop cheating!” during a board game while he’s got extra cards hidden up his sleeve. They think the Democrats are rigging the election, so they’re busy rigging it themselves to tilt the scales their way.
So it really doesn’t matter if you personally believe every detail or not. The point is there is so much credible evidence, with real people charged and pleading guilty, that we should be shouting about it until it gets a real, independent investigation.
I'm open to the idea that there might be something here, I just haven't seen anything particularly compelling, it's all been very typical conspiracy theory stuff. The Trump lawyer thing I did hear about, I don't remember anything about actually changing results though, just unauthorized access. Trump saying something suspicious, well, he says a lot of stuff. The drop off rates being different between the two candidates seems sensible to me, I'd expect quite a few Trump voters to just care about Trump and not the rest of the races, and less so on the Democratic side. It's the reason turnout now seems to help Republicans, they've won over a lot of unreliable voters and Trump brings them out better than most. A coordinated, multi-state conspiracy to rig the election seems very unlikely to stay completely airtight for over a year.
Is there a source that specifically claims that these anomalies are happening in states using the same voting system and not in others? I haven't seen that in anything linked to me so far, and that would be at least interesting.