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on the ground reality is that azeri army attacked what is in practical terms armenian settled breakaway territory of Nagorno Karabakh. ignoring for five minutes whether they were there legally or not, azeri army attacked armenians. if you want to untangle technicalities of it all, like whose territory is that, you'd have as much luck as anyone trying to build a lasting peace in middle east
it's a shitshow and it will remain so, especially considering that azerbaijan has oil and gas exports now, so usual arbiters have to be nice to these authoritarian fuckers for five minutes especially after ditching russian gas
also it only makes sense for armenia to leave csto, especially after russia did absolutely fucking nothing to protect them four years ago. the only weird thing about it is what took them so long
As an "azeri", I agree, the situation is a shitshow. Both nations lived together in many of these territories and you can't just draw a line to separate them. I don't know what a practical solution to this issue would be. Currently, the nations dislike each other, to put it mildly. But I have to say that since Azerbaijan recaptured their internationally recognized territories, there at least has been a ray of hope, because the leaders actually starting talking to try to solve things. There was 0 progress for almost 30 years and suddenly, there is some (no way you would see Pshinyan and Aliyev smiling on the same photo before then). As soon as the primary instigator (Russia) got busy enough, there's progress started.
And while Azerbaijan is obviously not completely in the right here, considering the treatment of the prisoners and such, the western support for Armenia is mostly due to political reasons and not because Azerbaijan's actions to reclaim their internationally recognized territories are inherently wrong. France and USA both have a lot of Armenian voters which influence their decisions, so the situation is rather skewed in the media. They bark to get the votes, but do nothing, because they want the oil/gas, and cause the territories are legally Azerbaijan.
Both parties are historically at fault and it was beneficial to keep them fighting.
He's only arguing because he's biased, and I suspect ethnically azeri. Even by his own criteria he is incorrect, as they have occupied internationally recognized areas of Armenia.
I already made them aware of "Azerbaijani soldiers crossed several kilometers into Armenia in the provinces of Syunik and Gegharkunik. Despite international calls for withdrawal from the European Parliament, the United States, and France, Azerbaijan has maintained its presence on Armenian soil, occupying at least 215 square kilometres (83 sq mi) of internationally recognized Armenian territory."
Which they ignored, they are still only making a mix of semantic or pedantic arguments.