You may have noticed a distinct lack of return2ozma. This is due to their admitting, in a public comment, that their engagement here is in bad faith:
I'm sure there will be questions, let me see if I can address the most obvious ones:
- Can I still post negative stuff about Biden?
Absolutely! We have zero interest in running an echo chamber. However, if ALL you're posting is negative, you may want to re-think your priorities. You get out of the world what you put into it and all that.
- Why now?
Presumption of innocence. It may be my own fault, but I do try to think the best of people, and even though they were posting negative articles, they weren't necessarily WRONG. Biden's poll numbers, particularly in minority demographics ARE in the shitter. They are starting to get better, but he still has a hell of a hill to climb.
- Why a 30 day temp ban and not a permanent ban?
The articles return2ozma shared weren't bad, faked, or from some wing-nut bias site like "beforeitsnews.com", they were legitimate articles from established and respected news agencies, pointing out the valid problems Biden faces.
The problem was ONLY posting the negatives, over and over and then openly admitting that dishonest enagement is their purpose.
Had they all been bullshit articles? It would not have taken anywhere near this much time to lay the ban and it would have been permanent.
30 days seems enough time for them to re-think their strategery and come back to engage honestly.
That's what you call "bad faith engagement"?
Really?
The shitlib push to get everybody to snort your toxic and dangerous fallacious positivity in unison is starting to get really, really overt.
Yeah, I'm sorta startled that admitting to wanting to highlight negative truths over cheering for someone is considered bad faith. Bad faith is misrepresenting an issue, not selectively posting reputable sources. This is one mod decision that I think is wrong and bad.
It's going to get worse and worse as November comes around. The liberal hysterics is pretty similar to 2016 - be prepared for more of the same.
So…. Someone saying their entire purpose is to share only the negative about Biden wasn’t overt enough?
Seems overt bias is fine with you if it favors your agenda.
I'm willing to bet they just don't think having a bias is bannable
If I have an issue with the kinds of things someone else is posting, and they haven't actually broken a rule, I either downvote it, argue with them about it, post my own content that represents my own perspective, or all three. I don't cheer for that user to be banned simply because I don't like their bias or agenda
Yeah, I cheer because they’re admittedly here in bad faith to spread bullshit. And they are now muted as a result of it.
The mod even stated that the articles weren't bullshit and please explain how the posting behaviour amounts to bad faith as defined by wikipedia:
Ozma was not being deceptive, pretending feelings or paying lip service. He was honest snd consistent, people just didn't want to hear it.
Yeah, he was honest about spreading propaganda. That’s why his ass got booted.
If what they were spreading was bullshit, the posts themselves would have been removed for breaking misinformation rules.
If what they were spreading was biden's own shit so that you had to smell it instead of ignoring it, I think he was doing you a service and you should be thanking him.
I’m not sorry that one of your own was silence for a while. The peace and quiet is going to be memorable to say the least.
The dude admitted to posting in bad faith. So… you really have no argument here at all.
And let’s not pretend that you wouldn’t be the exact same way if you found out a well-known anti-propagandist was banned for a month.
Pretending that there can be anything positive about liberalism (or it's myriad servants - like Biden) is outright lying, liberal.
I'd say we've been handling you liberals with kid gloves up until now.
That is some quality rage-bait lmao. It's like a caricature of someone endlessly pumping themselves with Fox News, filled with a "you won because we let you" arrogance.
You don't even know what liberalism is, do you, liberal?
Do tell... before today, has it actually ever occured to you that liberalism happens to be it's very own ideology?
Did you know that (so-called) "conservatism" isn't, because, in reality, "conservatism" is just liberalism with extra hysterics?
No? Yes?
Like... The conservatives cry more? They're more emotional? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
And I never said that I was a liberal. I just think you sound like a twat.
In other words... you need to have your own ideology explained to you, because you have never actually given your ideology a second thought.
You never even chose it.
And? How does that affect the fact that you're a liberal, liberal?
Confidently saying something like that clearly illustrates the problem with leftism, lefty. You people have no concept of how nuance works or even what it means.
Confidently saying something like that clearly illustrates the problem with liberalism, liberal. You people have no use for nuance except as something to hide behind.
Dude, your entire post/comment history reads like a cautionary tale on how not to come off as the “ackshually” meme guy.
Side note- calling liberals “liberal” isn’t the insult you think it is.
And lastly… nuance isn’t a thing to hide behind. It’s just… a thing. You see, the world and everthing in it- exists within a grey area called “reality.” This is ironically where a lot of ignorant people stage their ideology of “everthing is either black-and-white/everyone is either with us, or against us” from.
You mean... just like the terms fascist, white supremacist and colonialist weren't insults once? They sure are now, aren't they?
Then stop hiding behind it, liberal. Defend your ideology... if you can.
Okay, since you’ve basically admitted to using the term “liberal” as an insult, I’ve nothing to say to you. Because circumventing the “no personal attacks” rule by calling people “liberals” as a derogatory is about as bad faith as it gets.
You’re the conversational equivalent of a Trump supporter.
Lol!
What's the matter, liberal? If your ideology wasn't a problem, being labelled accordingly couldn't possibly be an insult, could it?
You can flatter me all day long by calling me a socialist or a radical - it doesn't matter how you did it. Perhaps it's because, unlike you, I actually know what those terms mean.
The problem here is that you think you’re being clever by skirting the rules of this community by calling me a liberal as an insult- after admitting it’s an insult. But it’s only considered an insult to people who don’t understand how things work in the real world- so… in essence, no one relevant.
And you’re clearly not any smarter than OP who admitted they were here to post propaganda, you’re here admitting back-door insults.
Again, liberal... if your ideology wasn’t a problem, being labelled accordingly couldn’t possibly be an insult, could it?
Did you notice the sign on the door here, liberal? It literally says politics.
Which means what, liberal? Do you need me to explain even the most basic things about this to you?
Again, if you can’t have a discussion with someone in good faith without resorting to your little secret insults, you can’t really ever expect to be taken seriously or treated as an adult, can you?
Imagine if I called you… hmm.
Imagine if I called you “bait troll” after every sentence. And then defended myself by saying, it’s not an insult if it’s true, right? Because we both know why you’re derailing every conversion you are in with the “liBeRaL” rhetoric. It’s to circumvent the “be civil” rules here and to bait people into being reported by you.
This conversation, and many others you’ve had all seem to end the same way.
With you smugly insulting everyone you come in contact with until they give up…
You’re now not to ever be taken seriously. Way to go man. Big win for your ideology. Be sure to let the others see your good work here. You’ve managed to hurt your cause even further.
Now- go ahead and respond with some more petty insults while completely ignoring the wheelhouse of the conversion.
Again, liberal… if your ideology wasn’t a problem, being labelled accordingly couldn’t possibly be an insult, could it?
So you understand so little about your own ideology that you will happily conflate it with any word that randomly pops into your head?
How gormless can you get?
At least tankies and fascists have the integrity to actually admit to the existence of their ideology - the same cannot be said for you liberals.
Whatever you say…. Liberal. Welcome to the block list.
Lol!
Projection? Really?
Hey… it’s an insult to you, not me…. Liberal.
Projection doesn't justify your ideology, liberal.