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I’m from the other side of the pond, what does this mean? I’m having a blast with all the Trump memes but this one’s too specific for me :(
It means that all the information avaliable about his actions will be collected the judge will consider that information seriously as a part of the punishment.
Fellow right-side-of-the-ponder here (so take with a heap of salt). So basically both sides present mitigations ("my client had a clean record until now", "the defendant was found liable for SA", sort of thing). These may change the outcome of the sentencing, including specific dates for any period of incarceration.
There will also be part of this given over to why they defendant shouldn't be found liable for also violating his gag order (very similar to the ones before, but this one is now he is a felon). And if the defense counsel can't explain why he did that (which is pretty much indefensible) then he can be both found liable for the breach and have it impact his potential sentence.
I am not a lawyer, I am not American, this is just what I understand, until someone better comes along to correct me.
Very good.
On one hand the report could say the convict has always been a good person until now.
Or………
I could say the convict has spent the last 6 months threatening the judge’s daughter wracking up 9 contempts of court. The contempt cannot affect the sentence, but it will surely speak to character for a parole of that unaffected sentence.
A probation officer working for the court will prepare a report on the defendant’s background, including any mitigating circumstances, criminal history, behavior, etc that would impact the sentencing. Trump’s gag order violations are likely going to be used to justify stricter sentencing.
So what, an extra $5 on the fine?
An extra firm handshake and a slap on the back.
Limiting of social media access, hopefully.
God no, can you imagine if he actually posted what his handlers gave him instead of his own words?
Before sentencing a judge is given a report on the felon's behavior, likelihood to recommit crimes, and general overview of a subjects temperament.
Trumps is going to be amazing.
Do we think this report will be honest? Trump always has people around him telling lies for him.
They get interviewed by a court official
They have to pee in a cup for a drug test in front of said officer
The room is mirrored, so no shenanigans can go on during the pee in the cup phase
They are asked a bazillion questions that have to be answered, or you go directly to jail.
Fuck off for even implying that this process won't be honest
The court official is probably one of the people protected by the gag order put in place because trump was calling for violence against the courthouse staff.
Fuck off for implying that the judicial branch can’t be corrupted. We wouldn't even be having this conversation if trump weren’t continuously supported by people who lie or slow-roll for him. IDGAF if he has to pee in a cup, it’s the rest of the report that counts, especially the part where his likelihood of being a repeat offender is discussed and whether or not there are any consequences for the very fact that hell yeah, he’s a habitual offender.
Can they include the civil court's finding that he is a rapist or does that not meet the required evidentiary standard?
It's important to note that the trial was just about what he did in reference to these specific crimes.
This involves everything before during and after the trial.
Does that… Does that become public record? Asking for a friend
Sadly no. It's confidential.
Unless it's leaked wink wink
No leaks. Nothing that could give him basis for an appeal.
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Probation is possible for this type of white collar felony but Trump was already convicted of criminal contempt due to violating the gag order 10 times while in trial. The gag order is still in place until sentencing on July 11 but he keeps running his mouth and will most likely violate it again. So instead of probation he could get up to 4 years per count but usually they would be run concurrent.
His mouth is going to take probation to federal pound you in the ass penitentiary.
I want to believe!
But this is a state case so the best we can hope for is actually serving some prison time in a state penitentiary and the upside is that it should be in Rikers!
While I earnestly support Trump getting everything he deserves, Rikers needs SERIOUS reform and honestly probably to be torn down.
Thousands of people are held at Rikers for months before ever seeing a judge or being arraigned, because cash bail keeps them locked up, and overloaded courts keep them there for longer
How about:
We take everyone out of Rikers, move them somewhere better, and just put Trump there?
I wholeheartedly agree.
But then again we should use all the tools currently available to us. It would be nice to see him there.
Right? Trump should be in the worst prison we have. If that's too inhumane for Trump, it's too inhumane for all the other people there as well, but that's a separate issue.