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Trump has waffled on whether the Israel-Gaza war should end. But speaking to wealthy donors behind closed doors, he said that he supports Israel’s right to continue “its war on terror.”

Former president Donald Trump promised to crush pro-Palestinian protests on college campuses, telling a roomful of donors — a group that he joked included “98 percent of my Jewish friends” — that he would expel student demonstrators from the United States, according to participants in the roundtable event with him in New York.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 5 months ago (3 children)

We really need to drive this point home.

Oh, you're not voting for Biden because of his support for Israel? Tell me more about how you care more about teaching dems a lesson than you care about minimizing the Palestinian death toll.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

There aren't going to be people left by the time Trump takes office. A million people are getting displaced right fucking now. And Biden deserves to be criticized for supporting that. So does Trump, but he's not President right now. Biden is.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Even if they had the same stance on Israel, which they clearly don’t, let’s not forget the Ukrainians that would lose support on day one of a Trump presidency. Also, China would likely begin to move on Taiwan without US support. He’d set the stage for WWIII and justify it as isolationism.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago

Solid talking points.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Agree on Ukraine, but China doesn't have the capability to make a move on Taiwan and won't for another decade, if ever. Though Hong Kong and the Uighurs would have an even worse time with Trump in the Whitehouse to be sure.

China's capability of invading Taiwan has been overstated in the media. Sure they have a massive army, but Taiwan is an island and amphibious operations are very very hard to pull off. That being said, Trump probably wouldn't be sending a lot of arms to Taiwan so China invading Taiwan in a decade would be more likely.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

but Taiwan is an island and amphibious operations are very very hard to pull off.

That might hurt them more than anything. All china has to do is blockade Taiwan, obliterate any fishing vessels and ports it sees, and bomb farmland.

A castle can only be defended for as long as it has food stores.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

China can't blockade Taiwan while being outside the range of missiles and drones. China probably has about 400 ships but what is the quality of the air defense and drone boat defense do they have?

They don't have the space to do what Russia is trying (unsuccessfully) in the Black Sea with keeping their ships outside the range of missiles and drones.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That’s a fair assessment of invasion threat. However, if we pull out of the South China Sea and the Taiwan Strait, they’ll be forced to accept China’s control of import again. That’s devastating to an island nation’s economy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

US was late to WW1 and WW2. Trump wants to go 3 for 3.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Having interacted with these people I can tell you that nothing has any effect on these goalpost moving liars and you just have to step on their dicks and convince bystanders like you do with any worthless bullshitter