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I'm not sure if this is the right community for this question, but it says "no stupid question" so here goes. I'm an Israeli who now lives in the US, but I am considering permanently residing in the US or elsewhere (perhaps somewhere in Europe or Canada) because I've become kinda disillusioned with Israel for a variety of reasons (the war in Gaza being one of them, the erosion of democracy by Likud being another, and etc) but is that cowardly to leave? Should I go back and try to change society or should I just leave for good? Thanks for your time.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

i personally think whoever still lives in israel or palestine and maybe even has kids there, after 80 years of conflict, is crazy. it's basically "the badlands" and i think you should cut ties and settle down in a safer environment.

i don't think the US or Canada is the perfect place to live, but it's definitely better and safer than israel. i think EU, New Zealand, Australia and Britain would be even better, but you already live in the US and moving to another nation is often a lot of work, so maybe it's best to stay there. The differences in quality of life are very small IMO.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Do you have any idea how difficult it is to just get up and move country? Or to try to immigrate from a war zone to a developed country? Have you seen how the (especially non white/european) people who try are being treated??
As an ex-Israeli I was lucky enough to be able to do it many many years ago because I have dual nationality and family elsewhere I was able to depend on, but most Israelis, never mind Palestinians, don't have either, or the money to be able to afford to move, or a country that will allow them in.
Check your privilege.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Yes, I have an idea. My family is very international. It's a lot of work to move country, as I mentioned. One of many good steps is to look for work in other countries and get educated, which also solves being poor.

Apologists like you contribute to people raising children in dangerous conditions. Families had 80 years to relocate.

I have very limited empathy for people having children in and near heavily contested areas.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah I gave birth to a son here in the US, which I think is a better environment for him than Israel personally.