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Europeans still aren't buying Teslas with figures out Wednesday showing sales plunged for a fifth month in a row in May, a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now.

Tesla sales fell 28% last month in 30 European countries even as the overall market for electric vehicles expanded sharply, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. The poor showing comes after Tesla's billionaire CEO had promised a “major rebound” was coming last month, adding to a recent buying frenzy among investors.

They were selling on Wednesday, pushing the prices down more than 4% in early afternoon trading.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago (4 children)

who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now

Even fucking goldfish remember what he's done. He has irreversibly associated Nazism with Tesla at the same time that cheaper and better electric vehicles are coming out of China. The only way is down and that's not going to change until he is no longer part of Tesla and a lot of time has passed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Even fucking goldfish remember what he’s done.

And that's saying something.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is precedent for a car brand started by a Nazi successfully shaking that image eventually

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Over what sort of timeframe?
Couple months? Couple years? Couple decades?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

From the wiki, and I'm simplifying:
VW was handed over to the German government after being offered free-of-charge to Ford in 1948 by the British government (who ran the factory up till then).
In 1946 the produced 1000 cars per month. In 1949, 2 cars were sold in the US.
In 1952, 12 VWs were sold in Canada.
In 1955 they produced over 1 million Beetles.

So 3 years on life support being ran by the British. Dunno how long being run by the German government before becoming GmbH.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The German government sold 60% of the company in 1960. So another 12 years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And at these times, they could claim "Nazism is dead". The issue with Musk and Tesla is nazis are not going anywhere anytime soon. Maybe they should hire VW's CEO, actually. He managed to get the brand past the diesel-gate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

The issue with Musk is the very clear meddling in EU politics first, second his insane behavior and third, his Nazi salute.

If he kept in his lane and just kept his MAGA insanity stateside the Fallout would be a lot less worse.

But the moment he entered the EU political scene he murdered his brandS in the EU.

they will never recover. The damage was done at the worst time possible, when kia, Hyundai andthe entire German automobile industry went all out with EVs and China (byd) entered the EU EV market.

Tesla is done.

SELL. don't HODL.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So, we should be sending people to prison? Cause that's what happened to people involved in dieselgate. Along with the affected cars being recalled and the owners compensated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I doubt Elon will go to jail for being an asshole. Tesla may get in troubles for the promises of unsupervised FSD, but that's not the issue here.

I was more thinking about the brand's reputation recovery.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, that actually might work

Of course, Elon would have to be rid of his Tesla shares also

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Cheaper and better EVs are here from lots of European, Korean, and (to a lesser degree) American brands.

It's been a long time since was "the only choice".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Eve if he suddenly no longer had influence over Tesla, he's ruined their reputation enough that others have had time to catch up and make better vehicles.