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"Actually, sweatie, mass unrest is caused by the CIA, not discontent with Dear Leader!" (lemmy.world)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Authoritarian regimes with out imperialism.

Authoritarian regimes that developed without the prodding of imperialism? Is that what you're asking for?

You are quit difficult you know. Conflation, exaggeration and disingenuous.

Yes, yes, I know I'm quite difficult. It's a shame when people stay on-topic instead of wandering off chasing irrelevant points. It makes Whataboutisms so much harder to peddle, doesn't it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yes I want you to provide a name of a country that developed into an authoritarian state without prodding from imperialism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Han Dynasty. The Russian Empire. Nazi Germany. The "Estado Novo" of Portugal. Francoist Spain.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

All that you list apart from François Spain were imperial countries.. I'm going to assume your trolling.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

All that you list apart from François Spain were imperial countries… I’m going to assume your trolling.

Wait, so now you're changing the criteria from "Countries which turned authoritarian without prodding from imperialism" to "Countries that were authoritarian without being imperialist"? How the fuck is that at all relevant, then, to the very imperialist Soviet Union?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is turning into semantics. How can a country that is imperial not be effected(prodded) by imperialism?

I was making a point of the ridiculousness of your prior comment. Well done I guess.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

How can a country that is imperial not be effected(prodded) by imperialism?

So you're including self-prodding by imperialism. In that case, the fuck was your point about the Soviet Secret Police being necessary and justified because of imperialism? Are you just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks at this point?