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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Iraq invasion lead to over a million Iraqi refugees fleeing to Syria

Irrelevant. The kids Assad had tortured belonged to important Syrian families, not any refugees in the country.

the 2006 war between Lebanon and Israel (triggered by Israel’s illegal occupation of Lebanese territory that only the US recognizes)

Also irrelevant for the same reason and this land is only occupied, because it was used by Syrian forces for artillery shelling of Israel during the Six Days war. While the occupation isn't widely recognized, I really see no point in portraying it as a bad thing. Israel was attacked, they took a piece of land away from the enemy that would have made future attacks easier. Hardly an evil plot anyone needs to lose sleep over, other than Syria and Israel.

Not to mention, the 2006 war wasn't a war between Lebanon and Israel, it was one between Hezbollah and Israel - and certainly not one over the Golan Heights, which the terrorist group couldn't care less about.

utterly destroying Libya and turning it from the most prosperous African country to one that has open slave auctions

Libya saw an uprising that was supported by a Western coalition based on a UN resolution. Blaming America for the ensuing chaos makes no sense. It was morally the right choice to support the rebels.

Yemen too, now

Why blame America when Iran is responsible? Iran-backed and -directed Houthis fired first, including at American ships (but anything that floats in these waters). Again, it makes no sense to blame America for shooting back here, especially since everyone else, except for the UK, is either unwilling or unable (like China) to do so.

Back to Syria:

Did America pour grease on the fire once it started? Obviously, it literally backed the opposition groups and inflamed the civil war!

I don't think you are aware of this, but in a single prison, Assad has had about as many people murdered as died in the entire war in Gaza so far:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sednaya_Prison

Are you really blaming America for supporting groups that fight against such a monster?

There were almost 20,000 air strikes!

Let me do some whataboutism for a change: There were 45,000 Russian air strikes until 2019 alone, which, unlike American air strikes, primarily targeted civilians:

https://airwars.org/conflict/russian-military-in-syria/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war#Civilian_casualties_and_war_crimes

And did US intervention in Syria help? Or did it make everything worse? I think we both know the answer.

No, I don't think we can agree on this either. There are now parts of Syria with democracy and human rights:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Administration_of_North_and_East_Syria