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[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It's a good reminder that collective/democratic bargaining works. It's about time we bring back unions and cooperatives.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Made me imagine a page where everyone everyday can leave 1 vote on how good the government performs

If the scores are too low for a prolonged period of time, the government is dismissed.

(Obviously a very first-second concept with millions of flaws - just a thought)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Many countries actually have such systems in place today, even Russia (lol) - not that they work too well.

Normally, there are two sources of issues here: petitions can in fact be declined, and, in cases where the signature count depends on scale of the petition they can be intentionally escalated as to make it impossible to gain enough signatures. Besides, in many cases petitions can be left unanswered for longer than promised.

Long story short, the system is open to shenanigans and doesn't make the government truly accountable.

We need the system that would actually make politicians rapidly lose their jobs when they ignore public opinion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good detailed response :)

make politicians rapidly lose their jobs when they ignore public opinion.

Under such conditions, would the US have ended slavery or enacted the Civil Rights Act?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Completely depends on who is allowed to vote.

If slaves would have a vote, they'd certainly strongly choose one option :D

Same for the discriminated groups.

If they don't have a vote, this depends on the rest of society in the short run, but can cause violent rebellions in the long one. Democratic system does not eliminate possibility of revolt.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In a two party system, that would just make it so we switch governments every day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Two-party system is the enemy of democracy to begin with

But maybe even they would be more inclined to do better everyday