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Israel and Hamas appear to be inching closer towards a deal for a ceasefire and a release of some of the hostages still being held by the militant group in Gaza, while the UN children’s agency has warned that 17,000 children have been left without families or been separated from them by the conflict.

Qatar, which has been mediating between Israel and Hamas, indicated that the militant group had given its initial support for a deal after weeks of delicate and secretive negotiations.

However, while an aide to Hamas’s political leader said the group had received details of the proposed deal, it had yet to reply.

A Qatari official later clarified to Reuters that there was “no deal yet” and that although “Hamas has received the proposal positively”, Qatar was “waiting for their response”.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Anything to stop the fighting long enough to at least try to negotiate seriously.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What does a serious negotiation look like though? I can't see any path forward that makes anyone happy. Best we can hope for is a fragile peace that can, and will be, shattered at any moment.

It's in the best interest of the Arab world to keep Palestine under Israel's thumb. It's like abortion in America for Republicans, a fight they don't want to win. Why would Arabs agree to anything that sucks fuel from the hate/terrorism machine?

It's in the West's best interest to keep Israel independent of Arab influence. Alexander Haig said it better than I could:

"Israel is the largest American aircraft carrier in the world that cannot be sunk, does not carry even one American soldier, and is located in a critical region for American national security."

I've asked around on lemmy and the best answer I've heard is, "Two state solution!" I'm all about it. But it ain't happening. Because of my two points above.

It's all so hopeless I could cry. What a clusterfuck. Guess it's a temporary and fragile peace. Again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well no, there is no solution. The only way is to compromise, and it’s unlikely either of them are going to agree to that. Even if we ignore foreign influences, these are two groups of people who have been fighting so long that it’s their entire life. There’s so much hate, justified or not, that can never be quenched. Israel definitely has the military advantage, and should be ashamed about how it’s using it. But give Hamas the same firepower and they’d be doing the same thing. Everything is revenge for an act of revenge. Most of this is fueled by religious ideology, which gives people a lot of justification for their actions. Ultimately, the only one to blame is the British.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There is a solution. One state for everyone. Palestine.

So long as there is a settler-colonial ethno-state occupying the land - there won't be peace, because peace is antithetical to the process of colonizing Palestine.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well that won’t happen. Israel isn’t gonna give up power or land. Neither side will be willing to coexist without concessions that the other won’t agree to.

I’m not siding with Israel… I’m just making a prediction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's very different to saying there's no solution.

Apartheids don't like being told to stop feeding on the blood and resources their hosts - of course, that's very true. But the cat is out of the bag. The apartheid will fall and the lands of Palestine will regrow - the question is now how long it will take and how many innocent people Israel will kill before it implodes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

There’s a solution to everything. I meant a solution that is at all likely to happen.

To be clear: Israel is committing genocide with their superior fire power. This is wrong. I hope a solution that can create a lasting peace is found…

… but I would not bet money on that happening.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

That was tried in the last pause deal. Israel isn't gonna settle for peace until they can't (or are made unable to) continue their war.