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Mass Grave in Gaza Points to “Execution-Style” Killings by Israeli Forces (www.democracynow.org)

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Some of the victims were blindfolded with their hands tied behind their backs with zip ties.

There were witness statements of executions recently, now actual evidence is found and being shown.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

With how often we spar, I feel it's worth mentioning that I fully agree with you here. There's enough substantial evidence. This is horrific.

Between this and the IDF disguising itself as civilians and doctors to kill targets in a hospital, it's fairly clear that the organization needs to completely disband as part of any peace agreement.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Looked into the presenter of this video (Middle East Eye)

heavy Palestine bias
owners not known
0 Israeli perspective

I've gone through the last 8 hours of Al Jazeera links - no mention of this article. The review from the last 24 hours does not mention this link. Do you have an Al Jazeera, BBC, or AP link to this video, because right now it looks fabricated with the AJ logo.

The AJ link you posted is a great article- bodies found, likely bound and executed, investigating ongoing, Palestine blames Israel.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I checked and it seems like they reposed a 2 weeks old AJ video cutting out some of their footage.

https://youtu.be/E4PtbgpBu9E

So it's less recent than I thought, but still relevant. First witness statements of mass IDF executions were ~2 months ago iirc (don't quote me on that I might be 2 weeks off)

Mee is a respectable news source. One sided for sure but they're not making stuff up.

Israel doesn't get covered much on the Arab side, they're afraid to quote lies from the IDF and tarnish their reputation of factually being factual. Unlike mostly western propaganda outlets like NYT which will happily verbatim quote every lie the IDF tells them even when it's already debunked. 40 beheaded hospital tunnels. You know the drill.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can I ask you to update your original comment saying this video was made before this article came out, related to a different event at an unknown time, and has been edited?

I don't know the name of the logical mistake, but saying they don't report Israel lies is a falicy. They don't need to state this is true, they need to factually state this is the viewpoint of the Israeli government, this is their response to this attack. Its not their job to tell us who is right and not, its their job to state both sides of the arguements and report on facts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sure edited my comment.

Does israel broadcast every statement Hamas makes?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nope - accurate reporting does. Like I wouldn't trust hamas to comment on Israel - its the point of independent journalism to give both sides, not take sides.

The thing I've learned most over this conflict is how much of a godsend BBC is - ban emotive language, report both sides, only send out evidence that is backed.

Thanks for the update as well. I'm trying to not take sides but can only do it when information is out there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry my dude but BBC is horrible propaganda. BBC called a Pro Palestine protest a "Pro Hamas rally".

If you're getting your news from BBC you're going to need to get up to date with some actual facts. Luckily Middle East Eye got you ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp4uLjCztfI

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

God, Middle East Eye is worse - they actively provide a biased arguement and have provided 0 Israel viewpoint and refuse to discuss who owns it. Their reviews discuss how they use manipulative language to push viewpoints and pass over any information counter to their agenda.

Had a look at the clip (well, first minute). Does this sound like a balanced view point to you.

YouTuber
listed outrage and disgusted before showing the clip i.e told you how to react
mentioned issues with screen recording from BBC (nothing to do with the the clip, just there so you already question them)
was already at an rally with this viewpoint before the information came up.
completely loaded with emotive words and reactions

Vs BBC clip

names, places
fact (visited, rally, support, Hamas designated terrorist organization)
clear, non emotive language.
the only issue is calling it pro Hamas, which is an understandable conclusion as Hamas is the Palestine government. Who is responsiblefor the welfare of Palestine citizens - their government. Its no different than calling supporting American military ops pro-Biden.

If you go up to my eairler comment MEE is horrific fir accuracy and bias

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago

Down votes here are extremely telling about how pro Palestinian supporters are really just anti Jew.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Are you calling all Palestinians Hamas?

As Israel pounds Gaza, BBC journalists accuse broadcaster of bias

In the latest newsroom fallout over the war, BBC journalists say the corporation is failing to humanise Palestinians.

In a 2,300-word letter written to Al Jazeera by eight UK-based journalists employed by the corporation, the BBC is also said to be guilty of a “double standard in how civilians are seen”, given that it is “unflinching” in its reporting of alleged Russian war crimes in Ukraine.

“The BBC has failed to accurately tell this story – through omission and lack of critical engagement with Israel’s claims – and it has therefore failed to help the public engage with and understand the human rights abuses unfolding in Gaza,” the letter reads. “Thousands of Palestinians have been killed since October 7. When will the number be high enough for our editorial stance to change?”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

https://piped.video/E4PtbgpBu9E

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

witness statements of executions recently

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.