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[–] [email protected] 79 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Health officials maintain — and experts agree — that pasteurized milk is safe to drink. The FDA detected small pieces of the virus in milk, not live, infectious virus.

“Right now, all indication is that pasteurization is effective,” said Dr. Andrew Bowman, a veterinary epidemiologist at Ohio State University.

Pasteurization doing its job.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

But the cheese, the poor poor cheese.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Yeah, any DNA or RNA in there is going to be completely denatured because of the pasteurization. But that doesn't mean the physical components of the genes just goes away. It is made ineffective and harmless, but it serves as a useful measure on how many cows are infected.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Louis Pasteur wasn't messing around.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I hear that Louis Pasteur is working on a vaccine that will obliterate anthrax once and for all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

and then there was Leroy Brown

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All those downtown ladies call him "Treetop Lover"

All the men just call him "Sir"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Meaner than a junkyard dog?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The virus, a strain of bird flu called H5N1, is concerning to public health officials because of its high fatality rate: More than half of the people who have contracted the illness have died, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

There's a certain crowd of people who are absolutely determined to consume raw milk. You can't get it across state lines, because the FDA bans it, but some states permit it internally.

This might cause some states to stop that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_raw_milk_debate

Especially if the raw milk fans catch it and then start spreading it to other people.

EDIT: Looks like the FDA has commented on it.

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/sites/default/files/hpai-dairy-faqs.pdf

Could the consumption of raw milk from these states impact human health?

FDA’s longstanding position is that unpasteurized, raw milk can harbor dangerous microorganisms that can pose serious health risks to consumers, and FDA is reminding consumers of the risks associated with raw milk consumption in light of the H5N1 detections.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The raw milk people are wild to me, because raw milk is disgusting even without the bird flu, and they're so committed to it. The more people point out that it's gross and unsafe, the more they want it. Drinking pus to own the libs, I guess?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I will say I'm a huge fan of having it around for cooking.

It think its as good or better than pasteurized in a sauce, and then when it starts to sour, the coolest thing is I can separate it and turn the cream into butter and get buttermilk leftover.
I can then keep using both for cooking and baking.

I think raw milk has a place with understanding of what you are buying, but I don't know if other people are like me and actually just gulping it down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I was going to express a similar sentiment: having the milk be unpasteurized can be an important difference when it's a base ingredient that's being further processed (e.g. to make fancy French-style cheese or something), but you're not really supposed to just straight-up drink the stuff.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

There's a certain crowd of people who are absolutely determined to consume raw milk. You can't get it across state lines, because the FDA bans it, but some states permit it.

My state's dumbass legislators, ladies and gentlemen: https://mashable.com/article/raw-milk-sick-lawmakers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

This bit from the article is amazing:

"There definitely shouldn't be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law," he said.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

While McGeehan admitted that there were "some other colleagues that have similar symptoms that I've been experiencing," he doesn't think that milk is the cause. And even if it was the cause, McGeehan doesn't regret voting for the bill.

"There definitely shouldn't be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law," he said.

That does seem kind of tautological.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

They are using "rule of law" to mean "whatever I want". Rest assured that if their child was sickened, they would sue immediately. And probably blame trans immigrants or something.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Please be the story of the congressfolk that legalized raw milk, celebrated by drinking raw milk, and all got sick as a result...

Fuck yeah.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If Cleetus McNumbnuts becomes Patient Zero in another global pandemic, this time with a mortality rate of over 50%, it won't be something to cheer about.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/inhumans.htm

Wear recommended personal protective equipment (PPE) when working directly or closely with sick or dead animals, animal feces, litter, raw milk, and other materials that might have the virus.

Wash hands with soap and water, then put on PPE in this order:

  1. Fluid-resistant overalls.

  2. Waterproof apron, if needed for job task.

  3. NIOSH-approved respirator

  4. Properly-fitted unvented or indirectly-vented safety goggles or face shield

  5. Head cover or hair cover.

  6. Gloves

  7. Boots

Avoid touching your eyes, mouth, or nose after touching any contaminated material.

Meanwhile, Cleetus has purchased his jug of active virus and is happily drinking it.

EDIT: Probably more like Cleetus giving said jug to his kids.

https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/rawmilk/rawmilk-outbreaks.html

Among illnesses linked to unpasteurized milk that occurred from 2013 through 2018, 48% (325) were among people aged 0–19 years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

You got it! lol