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[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"You unleash a string of insults laced with subtle enchantments at a creature you can see within range."

...its only component is verbal, and while it's not subtle casting it's fair to characterise as subtle casting; i'd argue for first-round surprise in the context of open dialog and in fact that's how we've played it at my tables...

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm okay with a DM ruling that it's possible to cast it in such a way that someone is taken off guard, sure. Maybe a performance or deception vs hostile creature(s) insight rather than the typical stealth vs perception when determining surprise from sneaking, which is not RAW, but I think sounds reasonable. I'd definitely not consider it to be an automatic aspect of the spell at any table I ran.

And you absolutely could not avoid a fight and just walk away from the situation with plausible deniability because you "only insulted them".