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LMAO, f keys, when I switched I instantly fell in love.
When it comes to cars, half the time I swear the complaints are just old car heads who just hate those "new fangled features". Like the need for "manual" transmissions because automatic sucks, automatic transmissions haven't sucked for a long while now. Initially it did, but it's quite refined now.
Fuck the subscriptions though, I want the "fancy electronic features" just sans subscriptions and data collection
Keyless is really something that once you daily drive it, you will miss it everytime you don't have it.
I am all for having project/summer cars which are cool in some particular way, but daily driver should be car that most easily transports you from place to another
If tech would be ready enough, I would be willing to go for 100% automation. If I could have magic egg were I just sit in and tell where to go, and by itself it just takes me there, that would be perfect.
That's the difference between people that have to drive and people that like to drive. I would love for most people to have reliable, comfortable, hands-off transportation so that they could get out of my way.
Great until the fob dies. Then your car turns into an art piece.
Every keyless vehicle I've driven has had a failsafe, usually something along the lines of starting the car by pushing the start button with the top of the FOB and it'll temporarily be powered enough to read whatever security codes it needs
Some brands have a hidden manual key inside the FOB that you could use
It's not the automatic transmission I hate. It's the electronic handbrake that disengaged itself and made me nearly rear end a parked car because I had the audacity to put it in gear, or the lane assist that wanted me to drive into a brick wall and then later on through a hedge. Also touchscreen for everything. Just give me buttons.
Luckily my actual car only needs the touchscreen for me to change to media instead of radio, then I have buttons on a stalk for it. The handbrake is manual and it has no lane assist either.
Automatics are just scary cus I've never driven one. I'm sure they are going to be fine when I am pushed to buy a new car.
Electric parking brake is one of those modern "conveniences" I really hate. I want a physical lever that directly actuates a brake. It should work even in a catastrophic failure (so should the steering and regular brakes, but it should be a separate system)
Sorry but automatics are absolutely shit unless it's a high performance car.
I don't mind all the other "fancy" features but I could never drive an automatic.
Sounds like you don't have enough experience with modern automatics to hold such a strong opinion about them then. I love a manual transmission but modern automatics are usually very good. There was a time they were less efficient and less good at shifting at the right time but those days are pretty well gone. You do still sacrifice some fine control that you almost never need and they are less fun, but let's not talk shit on them for issues that have been solved for years.
You can't generalize all the car companies like that, multiple american car companies make garbage automatic transmissions for their cars. Chrysler did too before stellantis, wouldnt be surprised if they still do.
Fair enough but personally I like being able to change gear exactly when I need it. It's a preference thing.
I have driven a fair few modern automatics. Most recently a 2023 5 series BMW, in assuming BMW have figured out a good Auto transmission?
Anyway I ride my Motorbike for fun so it's a moot point really 😅
There isnt a single car on the market where you get the fancy features without the data collection.
Yes, but I am sure some of the new cars you can turn off the data collection. Not all, but also not most.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_II378UoxY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcxCJbNrvzQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7_4OBm7IJ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zLZnYXU5kw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pka9KaQh7DA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SKc9rnYujU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5euh13nd10g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n0AI5aemUY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l27_75pDvd4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PnZ1szh6Dg
and just because I know for a FACT you're not going to watch any of those, here's a simple, plain English analysis by the Mozilla foundation.
https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/privacynotincluded/categories/cars/
Corporations are not your friend. They do not care about you. They will fuck you over, they will sell your data, and there's currently nothing you can do to stop them. There are no new "data friendly" cars.
Clicked on the one with the cat thumbnail. No cat was present in the first few seconds of the video. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
I gotchu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn2-ExGNpsA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8bvry109OM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ogtNgOUQYk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jRDs6bJE-U
New maybe, but it still needs to get that data out somehow, a little clippy clip to the internal antennas would probably do the trick lmao (as long as it's not with a subscription feature, that might need to periodically phone home)
No "subscription feature" should exist.on a motor vehicle. The idea that they do is asinine.
I think there might have been a misunderstanding, I'm not saying it should exist or that it's good, at all.
Just that you could still buy a new car and then sever the cellular antennas, then the collected data won't be able to actually leave the vehicle. But, doing so might break any subscription-based features, if present, because subscription means it'll need to phone home periodically