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[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

The defendant claimed that the CSAM had auto-downloaded after he received it through the popular messaging app WhatsApp, which his attorneys maintained is not a criminal offense under the Protection of Children from Sexual Offenses (POCSO) Act and the Information Technology (IT) Act.

...Which, okay, makes sense that you wouldn't be guilty. It would be like when people were airdropping shit a few years ago (is that still a thing?) and people were unwittingly getting pictures of someone else's penis. The didn't ask for or go looking for pictures of someone's penis, it was served to them without their intent or desire. The defendant's argument is that he didn't download these, they were sent to him and his phone automatically downloaded them. Is that true? IDK. But i it is true, then he didn't have criminal intent.

But moving along...

Rampant porn consumption has long been considered a major social problem in India, with multiple incidents occurring over the past few years involving sexual violence against women and girls motivated by pornography.

"Sexual violence [...] motivated by pornography". That is... Not a thing. Porn doesn't make people commit violent crimes. If anything, porn availability and consumption appears to decrease sexual assaults.

In one of the most shocking cases from 2021, a 6-year-old was beaten to death after refusing to replicate sex acts with a group of boys who were addicted to porn.

Porn addiction is also not a thing. Outside of religious and moral crusaders, you won't hear the phrase. Psychologists that specialize in human sexuality do not refer to porn addiction. When you look at the background of the people talking about porn "addiction" in the US, it always goes back to religion and morality, not clinical research.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Porn addiction is also not a thing. Outside of religious and moral crusaders, you won't hear the phrase. Psychologists that specialize in human sexuality do not refer to porn addiction. When you look at the background of the people talking about porn "addiction" in the US, it always goes back to religion and morality, not clinical research.

I was interested if this holds up and unfortunately it is a thing in the medical world, albeit not a big one. I found this study, which gives a good overview over the topic.

I'll quote the whole Introduction, because I find it quite interesting and it gives a good overview.

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With the inclusion of “Gambling Disorder” in the “Substance Use and Addictive Disorders” chapter of the DSM-5 [1], the APA publicly acknowledged the phenomenon of behavioral addiction. Furthermore, “Internet Gaming Disorder” was placed in Section 3—conditions for further study.

This represents the ongoing paradigm shift in the field of addictions that relates to addictive behavior, and paves the way for new research in the light of cultural changes caused by the new technologies.

There is apparently an existing common neurobiological [2] and environmental [3] ground between the varying addictive disorders, including both substance abuse and addictive behavior; this can manifest as an overlapping of both entities [4].

Phenomenologically, behaviorally addicted individuals frequently exhibit a problematic consumption model: impaired control (e.g., craving, unsuccessful attempts to reduce the behavior), impairment (e.g., narrowing of interests, neglect of other areas of life), and risky use (persisting intake despite awareness of damaging psychological effects). Whether these behaviors also meet physiological criteria relating to addiction (tolerance, withdrawal) is more debatable [4,5,6].

Hypersexual disorder is sometimes considered one of those behavioral addictions. It is used as an umbrella construct that encompasses various problematic behaviors (excessive masturbation, cybersex, pornography use, telephone sex, sexual behavior with consenting adults, strip club visitations, etc.) [7]. Its prevalence rates range from 3% to 6%, though it is difficult to determine since there is not a formal definition of the disorder [8,9].

The lack of robust scientific data makes its research, conceptualization, and assessment difficult, leading to a variety of proposals to explain it, but is usually associated with significant distress, feelings of shame and psychosocial dysfunction [8], as well as other addictive behaviors [10] and it warrants direct examination.

Concurrently, the rise of the new technologies has also opened up a pool of problematic addictive behavior, mainly Internet Addiction. This addiction may focus on a specific application on the internet (gaming, shopping, betting, cybersex…) [11] with potential for risk-addictive behavior; in this case, it would act as a channel for concrete manifestations of said behavior [4,12]. This means inevitable escalation, providing new outlets for established addicts as well as tempting people (due to increased privacy, or opportunity) who would not have previously engaged in these behaviors.

Online pornography use, also known as Internet pornography use or cybersex, may be one of those Internet-specific behaviors with a risk for addiction. It corresponds to the use of Internet to engage in various gratifying sexual activities [13], among which stands the use of pornography [13,14] which is the most popular activity [15,16,17] with an infinite number of sexual scenarios accessible [13,18,19,20]. Continued use in this fashion sometimes derives in financial, legal, occupational, and relationship trouble [6,21] or personal problems, with diverse negative consequences. Feelings of loss of control and persistent use despite these adverse results constitute “online sexual compulsivity” [22] or Problematic Online Pornography Use (POPU). This problematic consumption model benefits from the “Triple A” factors [23].

Due to this model, pornography-related masturbation may be more frequent nowadays, but this is not necessarily a sign of pathology [21]. We know that a considerable proportion of young male population access Internet for pornography consumption [24,25]; in fact, it is one of their key sources for sexual health [26]. Some have expressed concern about this, addressing the time gap between when porn material is consumed for the first time ever, and an actual first sexual experience; specifically, how the former can have an impact on sexual development [27] like abnormally low sexual desire when consuming online pornography [28] and erectile dysfunction, which has spiked dramatically among young men in the past few years when compared to a couple decades ago [29,30,31,32,33].

We systematically reviewed the existing literature on the subject of POPU to try and summarize the various recent advances made in terms of epidemiology, clinical manifestations, neurobiological evidence that supports this model of problematic use, its diagnostic conceptualization in relation to hypersexual disorder, its proposed assessment instruments and treatment strategies.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The existing literature has people saying asbestos is safe and that RoundUp is harmless.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And why do you know they are not?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

(stops snorting asbestos and places his chalice of round up on the table) sir, do you think me a fool?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm not a moron and understand basic physics, biology, and the scientific methods. I'm agreeing with you by the way.

Just pointing out that you can find anything in the literature.

Partisan hacks and morons can submit work for scholarly review too. Most journals don't publish that shit, but some just don't know any better.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I kind of feel that the term 'addiction' is being used a bit freely these days. If you're addicted to heroin, for example, and you're unable to access the drug you are sick as fuck for a week. That's not just a psychological phenomenon, it's physical too. If a porn addict is unable to access porn I find it hard to believe that they suffer similarly. That said, people manage to mess up their lives pretty profoundly with gambling so perhaps it's better to define addiction based on the harm done to someone life rather than the consequences of withdrawal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Addicted to porn could develop panic symptoms

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah fair point. I'm just thinking I'd call it a mental health issue more than an actual addiction. Extreme phobias are psychological and this stuff sounds kinda like the opposite of a porn phobia.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The defendant’s argument is that he didn’t download these, they were sent to him and his phone automatically downloaded them. Is that true? IDK. But i it is true, then he didn’t have criminal intent.

it would be dependent on what "download" means. If they were downloaded into his filesystem, outside of whatsapp (not cache for example) that's bizarre. I've never seen an application do that. "Downloaded" in cache, yeah, that would make sense. But still brings up the question of why he was sent them in the first place.

edit: minor change to add "not" before the parenthesis bit about caching.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But still brings up the question of why he was sent them in the first place.

There was an extortion ring running a while back that would try to send people illegal videos then blackmail them. I'm not sure how effective it was, but it did exist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

sounds like the internet i know. Doubt it would be very effective. I'm sure the government here in the US would be all over it, but i can't imagine it would be hard to disprove.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've seen Skype do that. It was a weird folder name, but gallery found it and displayed the images.

Which is how I noticed it in the first place