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Whether he knew this or not, he is partly responsible for the fact that it is happening. Either he was absurdly negligent and didn’t notice that this was one of the major promises of the Trump campaign, or he did know and wants some plausible deniability to say “Oh, sure, I voted for Trump and convinced millions of others to do so as well, but I’m still a basically decent human being who doesn’t like seeing jackbooted thugs violently hauling people away into vans! I wanted this to happen in a nice and not terrifying way!”

Neither says anything good about him.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

These people's views are not hard to follow, even if they can't follow it themselves. There was never any confusion about the end goal, but people like him NEVER ONCE considered the path to that goal. Because they are STUPID. That's really it. Low intelligence people who just don't care to learn anything.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think it's deeper than that...

Sure, some maga really believes what Trump says, but an absolute shit ton of his voters think "both sides lie".

So in their heads, trump was never going to get all the gang members and criminals out, so everything next just wasn't assumed to get to happen.

And you can't fault them really, like, we went from "trump never tells the truth" to "why didn't you believe trump" so fast people are breaking necks left and right.

The important focus should be on the good stuff the hateful people want, because it's the same shit the rest of us want.

Give them an authentic progressive president that will really try to deliver on campaign promises and all voters will start taking what a candidate says seriously against. When it's assumed all politicians lie, we'll keep electing people like trump.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Until money is removed from politics, it is not just a bad idea, but physically dangerous to your person to assume that any politician is telling the truth without deep knowledge about that politician's backers and history.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

we went from “trump never tells the truth” to “why didn’t you believe trump” so fast people are breaking necks left and right.

I think its more that he says so much shit, you can't take any of his words at face value, which isn't the same as everything is a lie.

If he says something that sounds positive to people other than himself, its probably a lie. If he says something that sounds horrible, its probably him telling the truth by accident.

Following this heuristic, this sort of violence was exactly the sort of thing he should have been believed on. edit: formatting