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Israel is missing from the picture
Israel didn't start the war.
People like you always seem to wanna start the story at October 7th while ignoring any relevant history before it. In case you don't know, israel and the zionist project took over Palestinian land and as a result almost a million Palestinians fleed palestine. Amongst many others who were killed. What I find interesting is that zionists in their correspondance with the British at the time is that they weren't pressed about getting palestine to be their homeland, they were okay in finding somewhere else. One of the other possibilities was Uganda for example.
Yeah, so mass rape and terrorism is OK in your book if the ends justify the means? Hamas did start the conflict.
Israel was in talks with Saudi Arabia to normalize relations and Iran didn't want that at all and they gave Hamas the green light to attack.
https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/09/saudi-israel-normalization-agreement-horizon
Everything that happens in that region is about Saudi Arabia and Iran.
No one said its okay. You're very good at strawmaning me. If Hamas did commit such acts then of course there should be proper justice. However, proper justice isn't blowing up innocent people and children. Just like you don't blow up a school when there's a school shooter.
Where we disagree is in saying Hamas didn't start this current conflict. They certainly did. Has shit been going on here for millenia? of course. The "strawman" was to remind you of the fact this opened with mass rape and murder at a music festival -- that's a fact.
You seemed to argue that thousand years of history seemingly justifies that and I'm telling you that it does not. " If Hamas did "... So you're absolute when it comes to Israel but when it comes to Hamas there' are modifiers. Your bias is showing.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67613153
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/06/middleeast/rape-sexual-violence-hamas-israel-what-we-know-intl/index.html
Israel has done plenty of things that they should not be doing. The warlike bombardment of a city is not justified and has soured world opinion against them.