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Do you think elementary school kids woke up one day and decided to spontaneously join together with other elementary school kids to reach out to the local Satanist chapter to invite them to bring more schoolwork?
Come on. Kids just want to play. The Christians, the Satanists and especially the kids parents are all complicit in using children for political gain.
My daughter has been an outspoken atheist since she was six years old since she told her grandmother, "grandma, when I stay over at your house on the weekends, I don't want to go to church with you, because I don't really believe in god." And none of it has been at my prompting in any way. I haven't been quiet to her about what I personally think, but I also have made it very clear to her that other people think other things and it's up to her to figure out what she believes. She's still an atheist at 13. She's far too shy to open such a club. If my shitty private elementary school existed now and I knew about those clubs by the time I was in fifth or sixth grade, I would have formed one because I wasn't shy. You do not give kids enough credit.
So you're agreeing that the kids probably didn't start an after school Satanists club by themselves?
The article says that it's elementary school, so we're not talking about 13 year olds. These kids are much younger.
I'm glad to hear that your daughter is living her truth.
No, I'm literally saying the opposite. I have no idea how you got that from what I said.
You said that your daughter didn't start a special interest group because she was shy. Similarly, 8 or 9 year old kids probably didn't seek out the local chapter of the Satanists. Someone told them to do this.
I don't think that any religion should be doing that.
Got it. You didn't read my entire post. I'll help you out:
How would you have known about the Satanists when you were in fifth grade?
Fucking Christ. Did you not even read what I pasted from my original post?
I did read it. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean that I'm illiterate or unintelligent.
You didn't disagree with me. Your question showed an ignorance of what I said.
Me: "If my shitty private elementary school existed now and I knew about those clubs by the time I was in fifth or sixth grade"
You: "How would you have known about the Satanists when you were in fifth grade?"
I literally said I didn't know about the clubs. I also wouldn't know about TST because they were founded in 2012 and, believe it or not, I'm not 12 years old.
So since you really need an answer to your silly question, I wouldn't have known about The Satanic Temple or the After School Satan Club when I was in fifth grade because I wasn't in fifth grade last year.
I'm saying that you wouldn't have known about the Satanists or any other religion unless an adult told you about it. I'm opposed to preaching to kids.
I'm also a parent (though my kids aren't yet at school age) and I'm frustrated with how public schools have become a battleground for the political gain of warring groups. A Satanist after school club is another example.
You mentioned that you went to private school. I also went to a Catholic private school until third grade so I understand your frustration with them.
Have you heard of this thing called the Internet?
Yes. Please answer me this hypothetical. Why do we prohibit young kids from viewing porn?
The Satanists shouldn't be allowed to preach to kids just like the Jews and Muslims and Christians shouldn't be allowed to. The kids aren't mature enough to understand the issues at hand, just like they can't understand the repercussions of sex.
Sorry, you want to prohibit children from learning about Satanism on the internet?
How would you even go about doing such a thing?
Also, how do you stop someone from preaching to kids?
And I understood sex when my mother told me about it when I was five.
There are ways of protecting kids from the chaotic influence of the internet. Most states prohibit minors from viewing porn and they're developing more effective ways to enforce it. Similarly, some states are prohibiting kids from using Instagram until they're 13.
In New Zealand they've made it illegal to preach religion to kids. I don't know exactly the the method but I've seen firsthand that it's possible.
You're talking about prohibiting specific sites but you're proposing blocking specific Wikipedia pages. That's ludicrous.
Not as far as I can tell from my Googling.
I lived there for seven years. I've seen and heard it directly.
Fine, show me the law.
I won't be able to find the exact ordinance and I don't really care enough to search for it. I've heard from reliable sources and I witnessed firsthand that missionaries in New Zealand are not allowed to talk to kids. There are lots of missionaries, especially Mormons, so the rule is widely known.
"Missionaries are not allowed to talk to kids" is not the same as "preaching to kids is illegal." And the fact that you won't even look it up and are doing the "trust me, bro" thing makes me doubt even that is true.
Because, again, I looked and found nothing.
Oh, I've figured out how to reply. I'm using Eternity for Lemmy and it has a few bugs.
I simply won't be able to find the exact ordinance. You can believe me or not. I won't lose sleep over it.
Are you in favor of religious organizations targeting children under the age of 16?