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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

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For thursday's sentencing the us government indicated they would be happy with a 40-50 prison sentence, and in the list of reasons they cite there's this gem:

  1. Bankman-Fried's effective altruism and own statements about risk suggest he would be likely to commit another fraud if he determined it had high enough "expected value". They point to Caroline Ellison's testimony in which she said that Bankman-Fried had expressed to her that he would "be happy to flip a coin, if it came up tails and the world was destroyed, as long as if it came up heads the world would be like more than twice as good". They also point to Bankman-Fried's "own 'calculations'" described in his sentencing memo, in which he says his life now has negative expected value. "Such a calculus will inevitably lead him to trying again," they write.

Turns out making it a point of pride that you have the morality of an anime villain does not endear you to prosecutors, who knew.

Bonus: SBF's lawyers' list of assertions for asking for a shorter sentence includes this hilarious bit reasoning:

They argue that Bankman-Fried would not reoffend, for reasons including that "he would sooner suffer than bring disrepute to any philanthropic movement."

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

ACAB and abolish prisons, but we can leave finance cops and SBF until quite late in the process

come the fabulous gay luxury space communism future, when scarcity itself becomes all but obsolete, we will absolutely have to make it clear that, at the mind-buggeringly long and rambling cadre meetings discussing the disbursement of the few items that remain restricted, Sam's opinion is not invited

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"what will you do after the revolution" "I'll be telling sam bankman fried to shut the fuck up"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Comrade, I am honored.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

One prison left (for all the dirty cops, corrupt prosecutors, and anyone who abused their position to imprison others). Even in the gay luxury space communism future, someone will have to keep that prison clean. Sam can have that job.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

The One Who Annoys The Shit Out Of That Kid In Omelas