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Seen on reddit. Someone asked: "What happens after the welfare cuts? I feel this has not been thought through properly. There are currently over 1.6 million people actively looking for work, and around 736,000 jobs available."

Another redditor responded: "*I work in a job centre.

We are openly told by line managers there is no plan. The reforms will mean many people lose out directly (their PIP is cut), but also indirectly (carers of people with PIP are entitled to an additional rate on UC).

The main things we are being trained for is an increase in 6PP situations (suicidal claimants) and additional training on managing those with severe health conditions whilst on UC.

The Work Capability Assessment system is expected to totally collapse immediately after the reforms are implemented due to demand as people denied PIP scramble to get LCWRA classification.

Even the harshest people on my team see it as a disasterous act of cruelty, as someone put it "saying the quiet part out loud."*

What is the government hoping will happen? There aren't enough jobs already. Do they hope everyone just kills themselves? Or turns to crime like mugging and shoplifting?

No wonder the UK is the second most miserable country on earth: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/latest-updates/uk-is-officially-the-worlds-second-most-miserable-country-these-were-the-happiest-and-unhappiest-countries-of-2023/articleshow/108361220.cms?from=mdr

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How is this really any different to the Aktion T4 policies enacted by the Nazis? At least euthanasia injections are faster for us victims, but they might be "too expensive" by the government's logic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because liberal sensibilities generally don't recognize social murder as murder, so this gives them deniability.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's what I was thinking about. It's a more anonymous way than that from the Nazis, the doctors and bureaucrats responsible had no problem executing these policies in public, exposing their names. Of course the responsibility extended far beyond them too (even the families of the victims sometimes).

Nowadays nobody calls for mass murder out loud and those complicit of it can excuse themselves with "austerity measures" and "just doing my job" bullshit narratives.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah, in the early days of the Nazi "euthanasia" program, the families played an active part (like I understand they have in the Canadian euthanasia program) but it was eventually taken out of the hands of the families as the Nazis went from killing people whose families gave them up to the remaining targets, people whose families actually cared about them. In all these cases, families and the states were trumpeted as heroes of mercy.

In most places today, the "mercy" routine is regarded as plainly evil (though like with a lot of evil things the Nazis did, a large reason is just that the Nazis did it), so instead it has pivoted to "it's not my fault if you can't feed yourself," spoken by the people who monopolize the available means by which someone could feed themselves.