Friendly Carnivore
Carnivore
The ultimate, zero carb, elimination diet
We are focused on health and lifestyle while trying to eat zero carb bioavailable foods.
Keep being AWESOME
Purpose
- lifestyle
- food
- Science
- problems
- Recipes
- Sustainability
- Regenerative lifestyle
Rules
- Be nice
- Stay on topic
- Don't farm rage
- Be respectful of other diets, choices, lifestyles!!!!
- No Blanket down voting - If you only come to this community to downvote its the wrong community for you
Other terms: LCHF Carnivore, Keto Carnivore, Ketogenic Carnivore, Low Carb Carnivore, Zero Carb Carnivore, Animal Based Diet, Animal Sourced Foods
Library
The relation of alimentation and disease - Salisbury 1888
The fat of the land - Stefansson - 1946
Carnivore Resources
YouTube Carnivore
Science Based, Factual Discussions:
Experience, testimonials:
Nutritionists/Coaches:
Lifestyle/Influencers:
Mini-Series on all aspects of the Meat science, heath, nutrition, and environment
Books Carnivore
Websites Carnivore
Excellent resource with many references on all things carnivore, may have to click around, recommend
Ketogenic Resources
Carnivore is a subset of Ketogenic eating, so all of the benefits for keto also apply here
YouTube Ketogenic
Science Based, Lectures:
Websites Ketogenic
Science, Guides, Recipes , Hard Science, highly recommended
Keto Virtual Health Program - monitoring, medication titration, coaching, excellent
Books Ketogenic
- Ketogenic : The Science of Therapeutic Carbohydrate Restriction in Human Health
- Why We Get Sick: The Hidden Epidemic at the Root of Most Chronic Disease--and How to Fight It
- How Not to Get Sick: A Cookbook and Guide to Prevent and Reverse Insulin Resistance, Lose Weight, and Fight Chronic Disease
Feel free to add any suggestions below

There are many dietary patterns available and in the zeitgeist.
MacroNutrient
On the macronutrient scale we have 3^3 (27) choices, the most common are:
- HCHFLP - High Carb, High Fat, Low Protein : This is the "standard"/default western diet
- HCLFMP - High Carb, Low Fat, Medium Protein: This is the default "healthy" diet recommended by media
- HCLFHP - High Carb, Low Fat, High Protein: A body builder bulking diet
- MCLFHP - Medium Carb, Low Fat, High Protein: Body builder cutting diet
- LCHFMP - Low Carb, High Fat, Moderate Protein : A diet that maintains the metabolic state of ketosis
MicroNutrients Inside of any macronutrient regime there are essential micronutrients/minerals that are required. Essential means the body does not have the ability to produce them from other sources. There are too many to list here, but using a diet tool like chronometer (free and can use the website) will let you see if your covering your micronutrient targets (Recommend Daily Intakes). One note is that the RDAs are usually minimums (though in some contexts may be more then necessary).
Cronometer example micronutrient display
Importantly, VERY importantly, not all foods are ingested by the human body the same, so the amount on the label is not the same that ends up in the body. This is a good paper discussing the bioavailabilty measurements of food, DIAAS seems to be the best scoring system out there to date.
Whole Foods
Regardless of macro and micro nutrient choices, the evidence, and consensus across medical professionals, and zealots, is that eating whole foods from natural sources that are not industrialized and hyper processed is a good guide to health and better outcomes.
If the ingredients for what you are eating are more complex then the name of the thing, you shouldn't eat it. Don't eat food from a factory out of a box and wrapped in plastic!
I.e. shop the outside edge of the grocery store, not the aisles in the middle.
This might be somewhat controversial, but I would include modern seed oils as a type of processed food to be avoided on a Whole food Diet. No vegetable oils that come from a factory please!
Low Carb High Fat / Ketogenic
The LCHF, ketogenic/keto/atkins, macronutrient profile has many benefits - Increasing insulin sensitivity and reducing the issues insulin resistance causes (obesity, hyper tension, pcos, diabetes 2, etc).
The key schism of LCHF diets is over the dietary necessity (or lack thereof) of carbohydrates, this well referenced document is a must read for those who are incredulous. There is NO SUCH THING AS AN ESSENTIAL CARBOHYDRATE - the human body can do gluconeogenesis and produce all the glucose it needs from fat.
Sometimes this LCHF diet is referred to a fed-fasting diet, since it maintains metabolic ketosis even when eating.
The core mechanism of action here is allowing insulin levels to return, and stay at, normal levels throughout the day which enables the body - an amazing homeostasis machine - to function properly. The body is full of feedback mechanisms, like hunger, thirst, satisfaction, etc - to stay in optimal bounds.
Being on a LCHF diet easy to maintain, because your not hungry, you can eat as much as you want - you just let your body self regulate.
NOTE - if you are on some medications, such as high blood pressure, and insulin, changing your diet can change the effectiveness of these medications and should be done under medical supervision. Either with your doctor, a metabolic doctor, or a service such as virta. Watch your biomarkers when you change a diet to make sure your medications are not taking you outside of your targets.
LCHF diets can include Plant based diets (vegetarian/vegan), Animal Based Foods (Carnivore), or any mix in between (just keto, or ketovore)
Insulin Sensitivity
93% of Americans (and probably similar in western countries) have insulin resistance, this can manifest as obesity, or high blood pressure, visceral fat, diabetes, etc. It may not be visible at all - Skinny Fat - Thin Outside Fat Inside (TOFI).
You can use your TG/HDL ratio has a very good approximation for your insulin sensitivity. You want to be <0.9 (mmol/L) or <2 (mg/dL). If your ratio is low, congratulations you are insulin sensitive
Carnivore
Carnivore is a strict subset of a LCHF/Ketogenic diet that restricts itself to only animal sourced foods (ASF). The reasons for doing this can include:
- Better food bioavailability - Need to eat less food
- Inflammation from different plant based foods - oxalate / lectins
- Allergies
- Regenerative and Sustainable farming lifestyle (Local farm can provide biocomplete nutrition without needed to transport rare foods over long distances)
- Ease of adherence (not that many choices, hard to do it wrong, don't have to count carbs)
ASFs are almost entirely digested in the stomach and large intestine, very little makes it to the small intestine - This is why people eating strict carnivore have less frequent bowel movements, and people with gut issues can see impactful quality of life improvements on this intervention
What should you choose?
Ask yourself what your trying to achieve? What issues are you tackling? The only thing that matters in personal health is your personal outcomes. Focus on what works for you, or is specifically sustainable for you.
Weight Loss - Don't lose weigh to get healthy, get healthy to lose weight - A LCHF diet, or even a Whole Food diet, can be used to regain a healthy metabolism
Most of the benefits of Carnivore can be achieved with just LCHF/keto (Even a vegan keto diet). In terms of most effective things you can do, don't worry about carnivore start with LCHF.
If LCHF/Keto isn't enough, such as persistent inflammation, or prolonged gut issues, then Carnivore could be a good option for you.
If your insulin sensitive, you can keep doing whatever you have been doing - Keep being awesome!
Civility
I'm sure this conversation will touch on people's passions and triggers, I just ask that when you participate you consider the whole human and speak with each other with compassion and empathy for their choices.

I put the CaLefort Dry Age Fridge, a carnivore diet dream, to the ultimate test-dry aging a NY Strip loin for 45 days at home! The flavor transformation blew my mind, and the results might change the way you cook steak forever. Watch this juicy, carnivore-approved experiment unfold, and let's step up our keto and carnivore game massively!
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In this video, Chris demonstrates how to dry age a New York Strip loin for 45 days in a CalFort dry aging chamber, showcasing the flavor transformation and methods involved. He compares the dry-aged steaks to fresh ones, revealing significant differences in taste and texture, and concludes that dry aging offers a superior steak experience.
Key Points
Introduction to Dry Aging
Chris introduces the concept of dry aging steak and explains how it can be done at home using a dry-age chamber, specifically highlighting the benefits of the CalFort model.
Dry Aging Process
He explains the process of dry aging the New York Strip loin for 45 days, emphasizing the importance of controlled humidity and temperature to prevent spoilage while enhancing flavors.
Comparison of Steaks
The video features a side-by-side tasting of the dry-aged steaks and fresh steaks, where Chris and his wife share their impressions and the stark differences in flavor and texture.
Flavor Experience
Chris describes the depth of flavor and tenderness of the dry-aged steak, noting its complex notes compared to the fresher steak, which tasted relatively bland in comparison.
Conclusion on Worth of Dry Aging
Chris concludes that investing in a dry-aging chamber is worthwhile for steak lovers, as homemade dry-aged steak offers a far superior taste compared to restaurant offerings, thus encouraging viewers to consider trying it.
Future Experiments
Lastly, Chris shares his plans for future dry aging experiments and encourages audience engagement through his community platform, highlighting the ongoing exploration of steak preparation techniques.
- Why fructose and high insulin are bigger gout triggers than purines
- How a low-carb or carnivore diet can reduce inflammation and prevent gout attacks
- What to expect when transitioning into ketosis if you have a gout history
- How to prevent flares while adapting to keto or carnivore
- Real case studies of patients who reversed gout while eating red meat
00:00 Red meat and gout: Let’s bust the myth
01:30 Why you should stop blaming steak
02:48 The missing piece: inflammation
03:18 Case studies: healing gout on carnivore
04:01 Insulin resistance and uric acid excretion
04:20 How to avoid gout flares during keto adaptation
05:00 The risks of going in and out of ketosis
05:28 Mechanisms simplified: what actually causes gout
Mick Camilleri shares his transformative journey to adopting a carnivore diet, detailing the health challenges he faced, including a concerning coronary artery calcium (CAC) score. He discusses the changes he made to his diet and lifestyle, the importance of understanding health markers, and the role of supplements in his health journey. The conversation emphasizes critical thinking in health decisions and the potential for reversing adverse health conditions through dietary changes.
Summeraizer:
Reversing CAC and Regaining Heart Health: A Carnivore Journey
Key Points
Introduction and Background
Mick introduces his health journey that led him to a carnivore diet, describing how he became aware of his physical decline in 2020 due to unhealthy habits during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Initial Health Challenges
Mick discusses common health markers from blood tests that prompted him to seek weight loss, leading him to explore keto and later the carnivore diet out of curiosity and necessity.
Transition to Carnivore Diet
After initial success with keto, Mick transitioned to a carnivore diet around mid-2021. He experienced significant health improvements and weight loss, revealing that he had dealt with psoriasis his entire life.
Coronary Artery Calcium Scan
In 2023, Mick underwent a coronary artery calcium (CAC) scan, revealing a score of 322, which served as a wake-up call about his heart health despite feeling asymptomatic.
Doctor Consultation and Treatment Decisions
After evaluating his CAC score, Mick consulted with a cardiologist and considered treatments including statins and aspirin, while also exploring dietary supplements.
Monitoring Progress
Mick discusses consistent monitoring of his health markers and CAC scores over time, emphasizing the importance of specific laboratory testing to track changes.
Calcium Score Trends
Mick describes how his CAC score fluctuated and eventually decreased, illustrating that scores can change based on various factors, including diet and health practices.
Supplement Use
Mick details the supplements he uses, including K2, D3, and nattokinase, emphasizing their role in maintaining vascular health and supporting his carnivore diet.
Importance of Data and Individual Protocols
Emphasizing a data-driven approach, Mick encourages people to analyze their health metrics and make personalized dietary and lifestyle adjustments.
Conclusion on Healing and Self-Management
Mick concludes that the body has the capacity to heal itself if proper dietary changes are implemented to remove health 'insults', drawing parallels between calcification and bodily healing mechanisms.
National healthcare is driven by the burden of chronic illnesses, and most of these diseases are metabolic in nature, therefore, due to malnutrition. "The reality is when you look at most chronic diseases, they have a underlying metabolic impairment as part of their pathophysiology or pathogenesis" (Professor Jeff Volek, PhD, The Ohio State University). That impairment is insulin resistance. "Virtually every chronic disease has some connection to insulin resistance, where the insulin resistance is either explicitly causing the problem or it's exacerbating it or accelerating the problem" (Professor Benjamin Bikman, PhD, BYU). Proper human nutrition requires animal sourced foods, and sustainable food systems require livestock.
Flourishing requires Nourishing.
Full Talk https://youtu.be/MXokgksI-CM

Eddie Hall, nicknamed "The Beast," is a British former professional strongman born in 1988 in Stoke-on-Trent, England. He rose to global prominence in 2017 when he became the first person to deadlift 500kg (1,102lbs) under official competition conditions, winning the World's Strongest Man title that same year.
Before his strongman career, Hall was a national champion swimmer in his youth. He later worked as a mechanic while developing his strength training. At his competitive peak, he weighed around 400 pounds and consumed up to 12,000 calories daily.
After retiring from strongman competition in 2017, Hall transformed his physique, losing significant weight while maintaining strength. He's ventured into boxing, acting, and television, appearing in shows like "The Strongest Man in History" and several documentaries. He remains a popular figure in strength sports through his YouTube channel and other media appearances.
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He Eats Over 5,000 Calories a Day | Dr Shawn Baker & Eddie Hall (The Beast)
In this episode of the Dr. Shawn Baker Podcast, Eddie Hall, the world's strongest man known for his iconic 500 kg deadlift, discusses his experiences with intense training, his carnivore diet, and his upcoming MMA fight. Hall shares insights into the physical demands of strongman training compared to fighting, the impact of diet on performance, and lifestyle changes as he approaches his 40s. He also reflects on recovery techniques and his family's involvement in healthy eating.
Key Points
Eddie Hall's Career Beginnings
Eddie Hall dominated national swimming competitions from ages 10 to 13 and transitioned into strength sports, ultimately becoming the world's strongest man. He initially aimed for bodybuilding but soon recognized his talent in lifting heavy weights, leading him to compete in strongman events.
High-Calorie Diet
Eddie consumes over 5,000 calories daily, primarily from meat, eggs, and dairy. His diet includes ribeye steaks, bacon, and dairy products like Greek yogurt, contributing to his strength and energy levels. He emphasizes the surprising benefits of a carnivorous diet, such as improved energy and reduced inflammation.
MMA Training Experience
Eddie is preparing for his first MMA fight against a seasoned opponent, Mariusz Pudzianowski. He trains intensively, focusing on fight training and swimming, and is aware of the different fitness demands compared to strongman training, notably the need for endurance and sustained effort.
Recovery Techniques
Hall prides himself on his recovery strategies, which include ice baths, physiotherapy, and the use of a hyperbaric chamber. He discusses the importance of recovery and how it allows him to maintain peak performance and avoid injuries.
Insights on Aging and Strength
As he nears 40, Eddie reflects on the changes in his training approach and the significance of longevity in strength sports. He aspires to eventually transition to bodybuilding and other endeavors, acknowledging the potential for older athletes to maintain impressive performance levels.
https://www.chriscookingnashville.com/recipe-cards?cardid=4743726915108
- 227 g cream cheese (softened)
- 57 g melted butter
- 9.86 ml white vinegar
- 30 g pork panko (or other meat flour)
- 108 g whey protein (or beef isolate)
- 6 g egg white powder
- 59 g butter powder
- 21 g unflavored gelatin
- 2-4 Tbsp allulose (optional; can be subbed for another keto sweetener to taste)
- 1 large whole egg
- 2 egg yolks (or a second whole egg)
- 2 g baking soda
- 2-3 Tbsp cubed butter
- Beef tallow, lard, ghee, bacon grease, or other animal fat for coating baking dish
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaMPCuYZ208
In this video, Professor Bart Kay debunks ten common claims associated with carnivore, asserting that they are misrepresented or unfounded. He discusses cholesterol and its association with heart disease, saturated fats, the necessity of fiber, and the supposed benefits of vegetable sources of Vitamin C. Each point is backed by scientific data and studies, leading to the conclusion that vegan propaganda lacks solid scientific merit.
Key Points
Cholesterol myths
Kay argues that cholesterol is not a causal factor in heart disease, citing studies that show lower mortality rates associated with higher cholesterol levels in populations.
Saturated fat misconceptions
Multiple meta-analyses consistent in showing that saturated fat intake does not increase the risk of heart disease, contradicting common vegan narratives.
Fiber intake
Evidence from a study shows that removing fiber from the diet can improve symptoms of idiopathic constipation, challenging the assertion that fiber is essential for digestive health.
Vitamin C requirements
Vitamin C can be obtained adequately from animal sources, and excess intake could potentially lead to harmful oxalate production.
Trimethylamine oxide (TMAO) theory
Kay dismisses claims that TMAO from meat consumption is harmful, arguing that our bodies adapt to metabolize it without adverse effects.
Red meat and mortality association
He points out that studies linking red meat to increased mortality are primarily epidemiological and do not establish causation.
Blue Zones fallacies
Kay critiques the idea of Blue Zone diets supporting longevity, noting confounding factors like caloric intake and physical activity.
Teeth and dietary classification
Critiques the argument about teeth for determining diet, emphasizing that human dietary evolution involved significant meat consumption.
Epidemiology flaws
Discusses the numerous problems with using epidemiological studies to draw dietary conclusions, labeling much of the data as pseudoscientific.
References
- BHF, Cholesterol vs. Mortality statistics, 2005.
- doi: 10.1016/j.ahj.2008.08.010
- doi: 10.1080/17512433.2018.1519319
- Hooper L, et al. Reduction in saturated fat intake for cardiovascular disease. Cochrane Database Systematic Review, 2015. Results: The study found no effects of reducing saturated fat in heart attacks, strokes, or all-cause deaths.
- De Souza RJ, et al. Intake of saturated and trans unsaturated fatty acids and risk of all-cause mortality, cardiovascular disease, and type 2 diabetes: Systematic review and meta-analysis of observational studies. BMJ, 2015 Results: Saturated fat intake was not linked with heart disease, stroke, type 2 diabetes, or dying of any cause.
- Siri-Tarino PW, et al. Meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies evaluating the association of saturated fat with cardiovascular disease. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 2010. Results: Saturated fat intake was not linked to an increased risk of cardiovascular disease, heart attacks, or strokes, even among those with the highest intake.
- Chowdhury R, et al. Association of dietary, circulating, and supplement fatty acids with coronary risk: A systematic review and meta-analysis. Annals of Internal Medicine Journal, 2014. Results: The study did not find any link between saturated fat consumption and the risk of heart disease or death.
- Schwab U, et al. Effect of the amount and type of dietary fat on risk factors for cardiometabolic risk factors, and risk of developing type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, and cancer: A systematic review. Food and Nutrition Research, 2014. Results: Consuming saturated fat was not linked to an increased risk of heart disease or an increased risk of type 2 diabetes.
- youtube.com/watch?v=DEx9foeADnc [Dr Paul Mason Video]
- dx.doi.org/10.3748/wjg.v18.i33.4593.
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- youtube.com/watch?v=DadUBmrFI78
- youtube.com/watch?v=LN5gcLz8tic
- youtube.com/watch?v=hq-JowK9T1w
- youtube.com/watch?v=zdSTxmo9aUo
- youtube.com/watch?v=qWgH-VaqMjQ
- doi: 10.2016/0140-6736(90)91656-u
- cdn.mdedge.com/files/s3fs-public/Document/September-2017/JFP_06307_Article1.pdf

Not intentionally. Stressful week, unplanned traveling around. Ended up doing dirty carnivore.
Ordering bunless burgers from restaurants, with seed oils I'm sure. That was my main food source.
Hard boiling eggs in a water heater.
What have you been eating?
A fascinating interview between two highly invested and well spoken lay people on the subject of carnivore and their healthy journey. Eddie is kinda wordy, but his ideas are solid. I find most of the value here about being your own health advocate for your social circle.
In this episode of the KetoPro Podcast, Richard Smith interviews nutrition expert Eddie Goeke youtube.com/@e.goeke_ who shares his personal journey with hypermobile EDS and how it led him to explore the world of nutrition and the carnivore diet. Eddie discusses the impact of his condition on his life, the role of diet in healing, and his experiences with various dietary approaches. He also delves into the science of insulin, the importance of individualized nutrition, and the challenges faced by influencers in the health space. The conversation highlights Eddie's passion for biochemistry and his commitment to educating others through his book and YouTube channel.
Eddie's journey with hypermobile EDS began at age 16. His condition caused debilitating pain and health issues. He discovered the carnivore diet during his healing process. Eddie's book, 'Contra Indicated,' challenges mainstream health axioms. He emphasizes the importance of individualized nutrition. Insulin plays a crucial role in various bodily functions. Blood tests can be misleading without context. Eddie's YouTube channel aims to educate on nutrition. The carnivore diet has worked well for Eddie personally. Eddie is open to discussing more topics in future episodes.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Eddie Goeke and His Journey
01:12 Understanding Hypermobile EDS and Its Impact
04:29 The Role of Diet in Managing Health Conditions
11:49 Discovering the Carnivore Diet and Its Benefits
16:35 Writing the Book: Contra Indicated
22:40 The Influence of Nutrition Experts and Imposter Syndrome
28:53 Exploring Influencer Trends in Nutrition
31:05 The Role of Insulin in Health
36:14 Influencers and Dietary Trends
41:54 Electrolyte Balance and Thyroid Function
46:19 Testosterone Levels on a Carnivore Diet
54:35 The Limitations of Blood Tests
Very Comprehensive Video Guide https://youtu.be/e23njOfpKCU
Pemmican is the ultimate food storage and preservation method. It historically doesn't need refrigeration
Equal Parts (by weight):
- Fully dehydrated zero fat meat
- Rendered fat
1lb pemmican has 1636.8 calories
Any lean meat can be used, from any animal.
The key to its longevity is zero moisture! Some people add small berries, nuts, and salt.. but the more things you add the shorter the shelf life
If you prefer more of a story time video
- Tasting History - https://youtu.be/DUAayg3D0XA
- Townsends - https://youtu.be/AYDuOKI8maQ
- Emmymade - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GoyoO4G5Y8
- First Nations People - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqyJ-cc-Www
A pretty good smoked sausage ride along.
Are we asking the right questions about the carnivore diet? In this video, Dr. Eric Westman flips the script and reveals the overlooked health benefits of the carnivore diet — insights that most people (and even experts) aren't talking about.
YouTube summary
In this video, Dr. Eric Westman investigates ten key questions about the carnivore diet that are often overlooked. He explains its potential benefits for reversing type 2 diabetes, obesity, and gluten-related issues, while addressing common misconceptions about nutritional adequacy, essential nutrients, and fiber. Dr. Westman advocates for a deeper understanding of the carnivore diet and its health benefits, encouraging viewers to think critically about current dietary guidelines.
Key Points
Reversal of Type 2 Diabetes
The carnivore diet, as a form of low carbohydrate ketogenic diet, has established scientific backing for its ability to reverse type 2 diabetes. By eliminating sugars and carbohydrates, the diet lowers blood glucose and insulin levels, addressing the metabolic issues at the root of diabetes.
Obesity Management
The carnivore diet has been shown to reverse obesity, with over two decades of research supporting low carbohydrate diets as effective for weight loss. Historical evidence from the 1860s indicates that low carb, including carnivore diets, has long been utilized for weight management.
Gluten Sensitivity Solutions
The carnivore diet is inherently gluten-free, which makes it effective for managing conditions like celiac disease and gluten sensitivity. By removing gluten entirely, individuals may experience significant health improvements that aren't achievable with less restrictive gluten-free diets.
Addressing Sugar Addiction
A carnivore diet eliminates sugar and ultra-processed foods, which can help alleviate sugar addiction and binge eating. This clean eating approach may provide health benefits by removing common dietary irritants.
Nutritional Adequacy
Despite common beliefs, the carnivore diet can provide all essential nutrients, including vitamins and minerals, from animal sources alone. Concerns about the need for fruits and vegetables are addressed, as essential nutrients can be derived from meats, negating the myth of their necessity.
Vitamin C and Scurvy Concerns
The necessity of vitamin C from fruits is challenged, as meat contains some vitamin C and the body’s need may decrease when carbohydrates are eliminated. Cases of scurvy on a carnivore diet are extremely rare, pointing to the diet’s adequacy in nutrient supply.
Debunking Fiber Myths
Dr. Westman argues that fiber is not an essential nutrient, contradicting popular beliefs that it is necessary for bowel health. Low-carb diets, including carnivorous diets, can maintain gut health without the need for fiber-rich foods.
Long-term Research Needs
While current evidence shows significant short-term health benefits of the carnivore diet, Dr. Westman highlights the need for further research to assess the long-term effects and potential risks in broader populations.
Critical Perspective on Dietary Guidelines
The video calls for a reevaluation of established dietary guidelines, emphasizing that a more personalized approach to nutrition can significantly improve individuals’ health outcomes.
Encouraging Behavior Change
Finally, Dr. Westman urges viewers to adopt a more inquisitive mindset toward dietary choices and to consider participatory learning with healthcare providers to explore the benefits of a carnivore diet.
TLDR - Meat is good for you
The association between a plant-based diet (vegetarianism) and extended life span is increasingly criticised since it may be based on the lack of representative data and insufficient removal of confounders such as lifestyles.
We examined the association between meat intake and life expectancy at a population level based on ecological data published by the United Nations agencies.
Population-specific data were obtained from 175 countries/territories. Scatter plots, bivariate, partial correlation and linear regression models were used with SPSS 25 to explore and compare the correlations between newborn life expectancy (e(0)), life expectancy at 5 years of life (e(5)) and intakes of meat, and carbohydrate crops, respectively. The established risk factors to life expectancy – caloric intake, urbanization, obesity and education levels – were included as the potential confounders.
Worldwide, bivariate correlation analyses revealed that meat intake is positively correlated with life expectancies. This relationship remained significant when influences of caloric intake, urbanization, obesity, education and carbohydrate crops were statistically controlled. Stepwise linear regression selected meat intake, not carbohydrate crops, as one of the significant predictors of life expectancy. In contrast, carbohydrate crops showed weak and negative correlation with life expectancy.
If meat intake is not incorporated into nutrition science for predicting human life expectancy, results could prove inaccurate.
Full Paper - https://doi.org/10.2147/IJGM.S333004

Not sure about this guy, he throws lots of facts out without references, but he has a interesting breakdown of the bodies digestion of ASF.
TLDR: We used to get a bunch of bicarbonate from bones, blood, and interstitial fluid, but most modern zero-carb eaters are not consuming bones/blood/fluid from fresh animals. So this might be a deficiency
He wrote this editorial : https://doi.org/10.1136/openhrt-2021-001788 - Low-grade metabolic acidosis as a driver of insulin resistance
Summary:
Dr. James DiNicolantonio discusses the effects of a modern carnivore diet on acid-base balance in the body. He explains how the consumption of animal proteins and grains can increase acid load, while fruits and vegetables can neutralize this acidity. He details the physiological processes involved in acid excretion and introduces potential health issues stemming from a consistently acidic environment within the body, including negative impacts on kidney function, bone health, and muscle performance. He suggests that sodium and potassium bicarbonate supplementation may help neutralize the acid load from a carnivorous diet.
Key Points
Impact of Diet on Acid Load
The diet significantly affects the body's acid-base balance. Animal proteins and grains introduce an acid load due to sulfur-containing amino acids that oxidize to sulfuric acid, while fruits and vegetables counteract this effect, promoting alkalinity.
Urinary pH as an Indicator
The urinary pH can indicate acid retention in the body. A pH of 6.5 or less suggests that acids are being retained, which can lead to harmful physiological changes. Maintaining a neutral urinary pH is crucial for health.
Consequences of High Acid Load
A high acid diet can result in the breakdown of muscle and bone to excrete acid, leading to decreased kidney function, osteoporosis, and increased calcium loss. This chronic acidity can negatively affect overall health and lead to conditions like insulin resistance.
Role of Ammonia in Acid Excretion
The kidneys produce ammonia to help eliminate excess acid but relying on this process can be harmful, as ammonia is toxic to kidney cells. Chronic high protein intake may lead to kidney damage over time.
Benefits of Alkalinizing Agents
Supplementation with sodium or potassium bicarbonate can help neutralize acid loads, potentially improving kidney function, blood pressure, and bone health, especially in individuals with chronic kidney disease.
Historical Context of Bicarbonate Intake
Historically, human diets included sufficient bicarbonate through blood and bone consumption from freshly hunted animals. Modern diets lacking fresh meat intake may lead to a deficiency in bicarbonate, necessitating supplementation.
Exercise and Acidity
Excessive acidity during intense exercise can impair muscle function by affecting enzyme activity and muscle contractions, emphasizing the importance of maintaining a balanced pH.
The 10 Most Misleading Meat Labels and What You Need to Know
Do you know what the labels on your meat actually mean? Many of the claims we see—like “natural,” “grass-fed,” “cage-free,” and “organic”—are far less transparent than they seem.
In this episode of ReThink Meat, we take a closer look at 10 of the most commonly misunderstood labels and the verification processes behind them.
What you’ll learn:
- What “made in America” really means The truth about “raised without antibiotics” The difference between cage free, free range and pastured The limitations of grass fed and organic labels
- How oversight and loopholes impact what these labels truly represent.
- 4 practical tips for selecting meat that supports your health, the planet, and your values.
In just 18 minutes, this episode will give you the tools to make more informed and intentional choices, helping you align your purchases with what matters most to you.
Summary:
This video discusses ten commonly misunderstood meat labels, revealing how they can mislead consumers about the sourcing and production practices of meat products. It highlights the practices of greenwashing in the meat industry, where companies use terminology that misrepresents their practices to appeal to consumer demand for sustainable and humane options. The video also provides viewers with four steps to identify truly healthy and ethically raised meat.
Key Points
Grass-Fed Misconceptions
The label 'grass-fed' often doesn't guarantee that cattle were only raised on grass, as it may include grain feeding and can include imported meat sold under this label. Therefore, consumers should be cautious and informed when selecting grass-fed products.
Misleading Terms
Common terms such as 'natural', 'cage-free', and 'free-range' often do not mean what consumers think they do, failing to accurately represent animal welfare or the conditions in which animals were raised. For example, cage-free does not mean outdoor access.
Antibiotics in Meat Production
Claims of 'raised without antibiotics' can still permit the use of various drugs, and testing for antibiotic residues often shows that antibiotic contamination is still present in many animal products.
Factory Farming Statistics
Over 90% of grocery store meats come from factory farms, and while niche markets for more ethical meat are growing slowly, the majority of the meat industry remains concentrated in large-scale operations.
Labeling and Regulations
The USDA's regulation of labels is often inadequate, allowing misleading terms to proliferate without sufficient oversight. Some organizations recommend looking for third-party certifications to ensure better practices.
Consumer Responsibility
Consumers play a significant role in shaping the meat industry. By making informed choices about meat labels and seeking out genuinely ethical options, consumers can influence farming practices and support better animal welfare and environmental sustainability.
Factory-Farmed vs. Grass-Fed: The Shocking Truth About Animal Products Does it really matter how your meat is raised?
The answer might surprise you. In Episode 7 of ReThink Meat, we uncover the often overlooked nutritional differences between factory-farmed and grass-fed animal products—and why they matter for your health.
Why did we start feeding animals grain instead of grass? And how has this shift led to a dangerous imbalance in dietary fats that could be fueling chronic inflammation? We dig into the science, revealing how the way animals are raised affects thousands of nutrients like fats, vitamins, minerals, and even powerful phytonutrients.
Plus, we share human health studies showing why grass-fed beef isn’t just better for the environment—it may also be be better for you. And wait until you hear about the 90% difference in metabolites between plant-based burgers and real beef—proof that we’ve vastly oversimplified the true nutritional power of meat.
What if meat is more nutrient-packed than we’ve ever imagined?
Summary
The video discusses the nutritional differences between factory-farmed and grass-fed animal products, highlighting the benefits of pasture-raised meats, eggs, and dairy for human health. It advocates for re-evaluating dietary choices to address nutrient deficiencies prevalent in American diets and emphasizes the importance of sustainable farming practices for better nutrition and ecological health.
Key Points
Nutritional Value of Meat
The video establishes that meat, particularly when raised on pasture, can have similar or superior nutritional benefits compared to many plant foods. It contains essential nutrients, including bioavailable minerals and vitamins like B12, which are crucial for energy metabolism, brain health, and immune function.
Impact of Farming Practices
The nutritional profile of animal products varies significantly depending on the animal's diet and farming practices. Pasture-raised animals have a better nutritional profile, including higher Omega-3 fatty acids and lower Omega-6s, which can contribute to reduced inflammation and improved overall health.
Deficiencies in the American Diet
Over 90% of Americans suffer from nutrient deficiencies as a result of consuming lower quality food. Many experts attribute this to the lower nutrient content of modern food versus that of the past, prompting an urgent need to reassess dietary habits.
Case Studies on Eggs, Chicken, Pork, and Beef
Research highlights substantial nutritional advantages of pasture-raised products, such as increased vitamins (e.g., B9, B12, D) and Omega-3 fatty acids, among others. This section compares conventional and pasture-raised eggs, chicken, pork, and beef in terms of their nutrient density.
Omega Fatty Acids Ratios
The video emphasizes the importance of the ratio of Omega-6 to Omega-3 fatty acids in diets. Current Western diets are heavily skewed toward Omega-6s, which can exacerbate inflammation and related health issues. A balanced intake is crucial for optimal health.
Health Implications of Diet Choices
Consumer choices around meat can significantly impact health. Regular consumption of grass-fed meats may help combat nutrient deficiencies and offer health benefits compared to conventionally produced meats, suggesting the potential for public health strategies centered on improved meat consumption.
Environmental and Ecological Considerations
The video states that choices around meat consumption not only affect personal health but also ecological health. Supporting sustainable and regenerative farming practices can contribute to the betterment of both personal health and the environment.
Advocacy for informed dietary choices
Ultimately, viewers are encouraged to rethink their meat consumption patterns and support producers who practice sustainable farming, underscoring the interconnectedness of dietary choices, health, and ecological well-being.
The Hidden Costs of Factory Farming & The Regenerative Revolution
Factory farms dominate our food system, but at what cost? In this eye-opening episode of ReThink Meat, we dive into the disturbing history of factory farming and its devastating effects on human health and the planet. From the rise of antibiotic resistance and hormone-laden meat to soil degradation, toxic pesticides, and environmental pollution, this system is broken—and unsustainable.
But there’s hope.
Join us as we explore the transformative power of regenerative agriculture, a solution that prioritizes the planet and the people. Hear the inspiring stories of regenerative farmers who are rebuilding soil health, restoring biodiversity, and securing water resources—all while creating a future where farmers, an ethical and sustainable food system and generations to come, can thrive.
Video Summary:
The video discusses the detrimental effects of factory farming on the environment, livestock health, and human health, while advocating for regenerative agricultural practices that restore ecosystems and improve meat production. The narrator emphasizes the importance of ethical sourcing of meat to support human and planetary health.
Key Points
Factory Farming's Impact
Factory farms, which produce the majority of meat today, have been linked to environmental degradation, animal cruelty, and negative health consequences for both livestock and humans. Issues include overcrowded conditions, reliance on antibiotics, and poor overall livestock health.
Benefits of Regenerative Agriculture
Regenerative agriculture offers a sustainable alternative to factory farming by restoring soil health, increasing biodiversity, and utilizing animals in a manner that benefits the ecosystem. This method emphasizes practices that heal the land rather than deplete it.
Animal Management
The way animals are managed significantly impacts environmental health. When livestock are managed well, they contribute positively to soil health and carbon sequestration. The video highlights that the problem lies not in livestock themselves, but in how they are raised.
Soil Health Crisis
Soil degradation poses a significant threat to food security and environmental sustainability, with current agricultural practices leading to nutrient depletion and reduced soil productivity. Protecting and enhancing soil health is vital for sustainable agriculture.
Consumer Choices Matter
Consumers play a crucial role in influencing agricultural practices. By supporting regenerative farming methods and being mindful of meat sourcing, consumers can help restore ecosystems and promote a healthier planet.
Regenerative Practices and Profitability
Transitioning to regenerative agriculture can lead to increased profitability for farmers. Practices that enhance soil health not only improve crop yields but also reduce the need for expensive chemical inputs.
Global Shift Needed
A significant transition from conventional farming to regenerative practices is necessary to combat climate change and environmental degradation. The video calls for a collective effort to support sustainable agriculture.
Summarizer: In this video, Raven discusses her transformation through the carnivore diet, detailing her struggles with sugar addiction, her previous experiences with paleo diets, and the significant health improvements she's achieved since fully committing to carnivore. She shares her motivation, the challenges she faced, and how the diet has positively impacted her mental, physical, and spiritual well-being.
Key Points
Initial Encounter with Paleo
Raven recounts her journey beginning with a paleo cleanse in 2001, experiencing initial weight loss but eventually reverting back to unhealthy eating habits, highlighting her struggles with sugar and carb addiction.
Influence of Michaela Peterson
After watching Michaela Peterson's video about the carnivore diet, Raven became intrigued and started to pay more attention to carnivore-related content online, setting the stage for her eventual dietary transformation.
Weight Loss and Health Improvements
Raven describes her weight before starting the carnivore diet (around 260 pounds) and details the gradual weight loss (down to 178 pounds) and health improvements experienced, including normalized blood pressure and better insulin sensitivity.
Coping with Initial Challenges
Raven shares her difficult initial transition to carnivore, including withdrawal symptoms, persistent diarrhea, and emotional challenges as she faced her comfort eating habits.
Connection to First Nations Diet
She emphasizes the historical context of her diet as a First Nations person, discussing traditional dietary practices and the importance of eating animal-based foods in her culture.
Sustainable Eating and Gratitude
Raven expresses deeper appreciation for food, emphasizing a connection to nature and gratitude for the animals she consumes, which contrasts her previous attitudes towards eating.
Future Aspirations
Raven shares her goals for continued health improvement and physical fitness, including plans to participate in a triathlon, showcasing her renewed energy and belief in the benefits of the carnivore diet.
Meat and the Environment: Debunking 7 Myths About Cows, Meat and Climate
Are cows really destroying the planet? In Episode 5 of ReThink Meat, we challenge the most common environmental myths about meat, revealing how much of what we hear about cattle and climate is based on flawed science and misinformation.
This 27-minute episode explores:
- 4 reasons the methane problem is overblown and why cows ≠ cars.
- The truth about water use, grain consumption, and their impact on cattle farming.
- Why fossil fuels, not cows, are the real culprits behind climate change.
- Surprising insights from Dr. Frank Mitloehner on why going vegan isn’t the environmental fix you think it is.
- How plant-based diets can sometimes be less sustainable than beef.
- Why not all animals harm the planet—and some actually regenerate ecosystems.
- The big-picture economics of grass-fed beef—and why it’s not always more expensive than you think.
- You’ll walk away surprised by how pervasive false narratives about cows and climate have become—and empowered to make informed choices about meat that benefit both human and planetary health.
Summary:
In this episode of ReThink Meat, the video debunks seven common myths surrounding the environmental impact of cows and livestock farming. It challenges the mainstream narrative that meat consumption is a leading cause of climate change and deforestation, emphasizing that the way livestock is managed is more crucial than the animals themselves. It highlights the potential of regenerative agriculture and responsible meat choices to restore ecosystems instead of harming them, advocating for a nuanced understanding of meat's role in sustainability.
Key Points
Cows and methane emissions
Common beliefs suggest that cows contribute significantly to methane emissions and climate change. However, methane from cattle represents a small fraction of global emissions compared to many natural and industrial sources. Additionally, methane's impact is often overstated, as it breaks down naturally in about ten years.
Animal agriculture vs. transportation emissions
A misconception claims livestock generates more greenhouse gases than transportation. Studies have shown that livestock contributes significantly less to emissions than the transportation sector. Proper accounting reveals a clear disparity, with transportation responsible for almost three times the emissions compared to livestock.
Use of agricultural land for livestock
It’s often thought that livestock farming consumes land that could support crops, but a large portion of agricultural land is unsuitable for other uses. Livestock can convert non-arable land into nutritious food while also improving soil health.
Water usage in livestock farming
Contrary to popular belief, livestock farming does not use excessive amounts of water. Most water for cattle comes from rainfall, and livestock can improve soil's water retention capabilities, countering issues like drought.
Ecosystem impacts of livestock
Livestock are often seen as harmful to ecosystems. This video argues that livestock, when managed well, can benefit ecosystems by sequestering carbon, improving biodiversity, and restoring soil health.
Going vegan doesn't significantly reduce emissions
Research suggests that eliminating livestock from diets would have a minimal impact on overall greenhouse gas emissions. Nutrient deficiencies would likely rise due to the loss of animal-derived nutrients.
Cost of high-quality meat
Quality meat is sometimes perceived as expensive, but when considering health and environmental costs, grass-fed beef can be more economical compared to processed foods. Furthermore, the true cost of cheap meat from industrial farming includes environmental damage.
TLDR: Just because a zero-carb gut microbiome doesn't match a carb-eaters microbiome doesn't mean there are health downsides to a different microbiome. Lots of assumptions to unpack. Net result is the microbiome research is suggestive currently, but nothing that should influence diet choices. Focus on real hard outcomes, not intermediate (microbiota) metrics.
Is the Carnivore Diet Dangerous in the Long Run? In this reaction video, Dr. Eric Westman reviews claims from a microbiome expert who argues that long-term carnivore eating may lead to gut dysbiosis, inflammation, and even osteoporosis.
I don't like posting about other diets, as everyone should be able to make their own choices. However, given the frequency of these arguments and talking points against ASF in other non-diet communities I think posting this ReThink Meat episode is a net benefit to the dialog.
The Vegan Diet: Myths, Risks, and What You Need to Know
Is a vegan diet as healthy and sustainable as it’s made out to be? In Episode 4 of ReThink Meat, we take an open-hearted, nonjudgmental look at the vegan lifestyle and separate fact from fiction.
This 27-minute episode busts 4 common myths about vegan diets—including the idea that “everyone is doing it” and that it’s the most sustainable choice. We also dive deep into the nutritional challenges of a plant-only diet, revealing why it’s so difficult to get all the nutrients your body needs from plants alone.
👀 What you'll learn:
- Which nutrients are hardest to obtain on a vegan diet (and why they matter).
- The irreversible consequences of B12 deficiency, especially for kids.
- How vegan diets impact mental health, bone health, athletic performance, and critical life stages like pregnancy, childhood, and lactation.
- Firsthand accounts of people who’ve struggled with long-term vegan diets.
- Why some countries actively discourage vegan diets for certain populations.
- While this episode highlights the serious risks of a vegan diet, it does so with compassion and respect for individual choices. Walk away with a deeper understanding of the challenges and consequences of this lifestyle—and the tools to make informed decisions about your health
Summary:
ReThink Meat: And Veganism | episode four
In this episode of ReThink Meat, the host, a holistic nutritionist, explores common misconceptions about vegan diets, their health implications, and environmental impact. Contrary to popular beliefs, vegan diets can lead to nutrient deficiencies, health issues, and may not be as eco-friendly as assumed. The video shares personal experiences, research findings, and advocates for a balanced view on plant and animal-based nutrition.
Key Points
Myth 1: Everyone is Vegan
The belief that everyone who cares about health and the environment is vegan is misleading. Studies indicate only about 0.5% of U.S. adults identify as vegan, and most abandon the diet within three months.
Myth 2: Vegan Diet is Environmentally Better
Common claims that vegan diets are superior for the environment are challenged. Research shows that a significant shift to veganism may only reduce greenhouse gases by 2.6%. Additionally, many plant products involve harmful agricultural practices, countering sustainability claims.
Myth 3: Vegan Diet Stops Animal Death
Contrary to expectations, plant agriculture is responsible for numerous animal deaths due to field clearing and pesticide use. Analyses suggest plant-based diets may lead to more animal deaths per kilogram of protein than meat consumption.
Myth 4: Nutrients Easily Obtained from Plants
Obtaining essential nutrients solely from a vegan diet is difficult. Deficiencies in vitamin B12, iron, omega-3 fatty acids, and others are common among vegans, which can lead to serious health issues, including mental health disorders.
Nutritional Deficiencies and Health Risks
Vegan diets can lead to deficiencies associated with various health issues such as depression, osteoporosis, and hormonal disruptions, particularly in women.
Importance of Balanced Diet
The video suggests that a dietary approach combining both plant and animal products is essential for optimal health and nutrients. It promotes awareness of ethical farming practices and calls for respect for individual dietary choices.
Consequences for Children
Vegan diets can pose serious risks to children, potentially leading to developmental issues. The video highlights warnings from multiple countries about the health consequences of vegan diets for vulnerable populations.
Why Meat is Essential: The Health Benefits You Can’t Ignore
Is meat really necessary for optimal health? Episode 3 of ReThink Meat dives into the fascinating history and undeniable health benefits of meat, showing why it’s not just important—but irreplaceable—for human well-being.
From its role in human evolution to its impact on modern health, this 23-minute episode uncovers why meat has been essential throughout history and why no culture has ever survived without it. Learn how meat supports appetite control, fat loss, muscle growth, and provides critical nutrients you simply can’t get elsewhere.
We’ll also explore: Why animal products were critical to our evolution The research behind a meat-only diet and its surprising health benefits. How a woman reversed her autoimmune condition with a meat-inclusive diet backed by clinical trials. The weight loss, cardiovascular, and longevity benefits of whole food diets that include meat. Why meat is key for appetite control and building muscle in a way plants just can’t match. And how much meat you should eat for best results Walk away with a new appreciation for meat as a modern-day health tool and discover how much meat you need for optimal results.
Meat in human evolution, Why humans need meat, Meat and brain development, Evolutionary diet science, Carnivore vs omnivore, Meat-eating across cultures, Traditional diets and meat, Animal protein and growth, Is meat natural for humans?, Anthropology of eating meat
Summary:
The video discusses the essential role of meat in human health and evolution, challenging the prevailing notion that meat is unhealthy. It emphasizes that meat provides crucial nutrients and benefits that are difficult to obtain from plant-based diets alone, highlighting the historical significance of meat consumption in human evolution and contemporary health issues related to the decline in meat consumption.
Key Points
Meat's importance in human evolution
The video explains how meat consumption was pivotal for human evolution, contributing to brain development and overall health. It posits that our ancestors thrived on diets that included animal products, which were critical for their growth and health.
Historical dietary shifts and health effects
It discusses the adverse health impacts observed in humans transitioning from hunter-gatherer diets to agricultural diets with lower meat consumption, showing that those who ate primarily meat were healthier compared to those who later adopted farming.
Quality of animal proteins vs plant proteins
The documentary highlights that animal proteins are of higher quality, containing all essential amino acids necessary for human health, whereas plant proteins often require combining different sources to achieve the same effect.
Nutrient density and deficiencies
It reveals that many common nutritional deficiencies can be attributed to a lack of animal products in the diet, emphasizing that animal foods are often the richest sources of essential vitamins and minerals that are crucial for maintaining health.
The impact of processed foods
The video stresses the dangers of ultraprocessed foods which comprise a significant portion of modern diets, arguing that these foods are linked to numerous health problems, contrasting them with the benefits of whole animal foods.
Misleading food rating systems
It critiques food rating systems that unfairly give low rankings to animal products compared to ultraprocessed foods, raising questions about the integrity and biases behind such assessments.
Animal products and health claims
The discussion includes studies indicating that meat can improve various health outcomes, including weight management and cognitive function, countering the arguments that deem it harmful to modern health.
Emphasizing the need for animal products
The conclusion reaffirms that animal products are irreplaceable for optimal health, especially in supporting growth and repair processes in the body, suggesting that modern dietary guidelines should reconsider their stance on animal foods.