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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Were you not just calling me absurd and obscene?

Pray. Plan your revolution. And then vote blue you fucker. By your own admonition just now it doesnt matter which party takes power, it's doom all the way down eh?

If I'm right, and with cunning and coaxing, and study and threats and patience the morality can be wrung out of Americans, well then that ballot cost you nothing and the worst was held at bay another election cycle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Ffs. Thoughts and prayers is not a plan. A voting rightwing majority knows it's genocide and likes that. It's a selling point.

Why would you gift them more control, more pieces to set the board for more atrocities home and abroad? And then preen like this was some sort of virtue?

It's so damn childish to keep pounding the table and shouting 'Genocide!' WE KNOW! We are trying! Shit is more fucked than your understanding of it. Crying 'Never Again!' and then telling me your grand plan is thoughts and goddamn prayers. Jfc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (5 children)

If enough people do that Gaza will be a paragraph in a history book—oh wait no, Trump wants to completely defund the department of education, so nix that.

How do you plan to win the hearts and minds of 200 million American voters?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (7 children)

... so the way to a stop genocidal white supremacist... is too get the demonstrably more genocidal and openly white supremacist in power ... Explain to me how that works again?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (10 children)

So by empowering the guy who really likes genocide, that's how we stop genocide now.

Again. Walk me through the steps.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (12 children)

Genocide will stop when people stop supporting genocide.

No. It will only stop when the people that care can wield enough power to stop it.

Voting blue allows for inter-party dialogues and the needful progressive backroom knifings to still happen, it empowers the pro-Palestine dems to make bolder moves. There will be sweet ole down ballot consequences to not showing up blue on election day.

If your argument is that there’s too few of us to make a difference, that doesn’t matter. The handful of Germans who dissented from the Nazis probably didn’t make a difference either. It was still the right thing to do.

Read some more history. Of course it's the right thing to do. Aaron Bushnell did the right fucking thing. The right thing makes for great stories. However effective policy changes require political capital, it's an unsexy slog but how the gears actually turn. Don't like it? Run for an office and change it. But don't pretend you are moving a needle with performative morality.

Sure, it sucks that Flint doesn’t have clean water, but it’s not really on the same magnitude, is it?

And I was an lgbtq kid back when it was literally illegal to be gay in my state. Again, not great, but it’s not the same as being bombed and starved.

... so you are purposing involuntary solidarity-lite? Coolcool. Very justice. Pay attention to what SCOTUS just did. Think about what happens when Trump cripples the EPA, or when he appoints 2 30 year old christian right wing nut jobs waiting for the rapture to the court and the decades decades it will take to have a hope of restoring balance.

You dare make appeals to compassion while turning a blind eye to genocide. It is absurd and obscene.

The bad orange man is not coming with a crown of flowers and a dove in each hand. He wants to turn Gaza into glass so the crazy fundos that let him get away with crimes feel like they are closer to jesus and let him get away with more crimes. I am not turning a blind eye, I just don't have a magic fucking wand. Voting blue does not stop you from protesting, it just protects the people that would be harmed by a Trump presidency. That is compassion in a foxhole my guy. With enough of a blue wave, dems can cudgel Biden into more action.

Still haven't heard your plan to stop it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (14 children)

The world is so profoundly unfair and fucked up and throwing more vulnerable people to the wolves doesn't fucking fix that.

This shit didn't just happen. People ceded power to the worst of humanity for decades, and wrestling it back will be messy, slow and painful and unless you are getting on a plane rn to off Netanyahu, voting is the lever of power you have.

Defy me. Show me you understand the consequences of your actions and tell me how not voting blue in November saves a single life.

I'm all ears because Biden is a rich white guy in god's fucking waiting room, you aren't going to fucking punish him by not voting blue. It is all the women that will suffer and die from a lack of reproductive justice, it is the poor zip codes that will flood unchecked with posion into the air, food, and water, it is the lgbtq kids that are going to check out alone in some dark room rather than keep fighting against the system that wants to deny them their humanity, and it is the myriad of other preventable and pernicious indignities unfettered capitalism and christian nationalism throws the door open to, that will feed upon the underclasses.

Never again is a cheap and hollow maxim when you sit back and do fuck all but bemoan that the goddamn fucking angels didn't come down and clear you a righteous path to do something.

Voting blue to help these people is an hour out of your day on a fucking Tuesday. You can knock it out while you grab some coffee on your way to meet up and plan the glorious revolution.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (17 children)

Who funds this lady? This move does nothing but pull off the young liberal, doesn't-understand-consequences-yet, and gets-their-politics-from-tiktok vote.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I'm not going to vote blue this November.

Now, how credible do you believe that statement to be?

Don't look the pile of evidence in my user history-that'd be makin a bullshit critique.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (6 children)

He says he's got nothing to do with it. Yet-he's got senior advisors and past appointees that helped write it and support it. He says he needs the heritage foundation -the organization that made it, to accomplish his goals. His super PAC runs ads for it. He stands in front of a podium and calls for things that are pretty identical to what's in it.

Stop watching the mouth and look at the goddamn hands.

He will say anything to lever himself more power because the only way he out runs the shadow of his crimes is by becoming president again.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Consolidation of US media. Billionaires will burn the world down rather than cede an inch, and it's their narratives that get amplified.

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