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So you're not going to provide any context at all? I'm not going to give you your answer for you.

Tell me what leaps you are referring to so that I can better educate myself, or fuck off. It is truly that simple.

What leaps are you referring to?

So you're saying Israel has a right to genocide Palestine because of the previous thousand years of history before 1967?

We can cherry pick timelines if we want to, but the fact is that Israel has occupied Palestine for the last 50 years. This is why Hamas exists, and this is the issue we face today.

The previous thousand years only serve as propaganda for modern Israel to be on board with the genocide.

This is just straight up islamophobic rhetoric

Do you mean prior to the Israeli occupation of Palestine in 1967? Because I think it's somewhat reasonable to be hostile towards an occupational force.

Not a gotcha I'm genuinely curious at what point in history you are referring to, apologies if it sounds antagonistic.

I don't disagree with this, but Hamas was created by Israel, and now Israel is bombing all of Gaza because of Hamas. It really seems like Israel has been planning this genocide for a loooong time.

Either way you're voting for a Palestinian genocide and the continuation of neoliberal imperialism.

Edit: the future is bleak either way, Biden has explicitly shown support for the continuation of support for Israel as well as the bombing campaign in Yemen and Syria. All this is to say that there is genuinely nothing we can do to help the middle east in this election.

But sure, we can get a better minimum wage or whatever.

Well I'm holding you in contempt in court for making a joke that I didn't agree with. I hope you're ready to pay a huge fine, because this is an open and shut case.

That's fundamentally not the same thing, don't be obtuse for the sake of debate points.

Insults and general demeaning comments should not be punished in the court of law. Saying offensive things should not be punished in the court of law.

As I said before, the action/intent is the part that should be punished. Providing private information about someone who you disagree with or want to incur harm upon is an action with malicious intent.

As a leftist, I fail to understand why we always jump to tone policing and purity politics? We can identify the material conditions that cause radicalization and general bigotry and act upon these things, but we always just jump to punishing people for being radical bigots, which only further galvanizes those positions.

We're not making these spaces smaller, we're making them more volatile by doing this. They see these conversations and think "this is why we have to remove leftism, because they will punish us for crimes we have yet to do" and that's precisely what this argument is.

If they're just saying that, I certainly don't want to be around them but I don't think they should go to prison. If they act upon that, that's entirely different and should be treated as a hate crime.

Also, you just said it. Does context matter to you? What about intention?

As much as I dislike people spitting hatred at women, LGBTQIA+ folks, and POCs, this is still freedom of speech. You don't have to enjoy it, you don't have to listen to it, and you're certainly free to remove these people from your personally owned spaces. But it doesn't change the fact that people should be allowed to say whatever the fuck they want, otherwise we literally are punishing people for thought crimes and edgy jokes.

People should be judged for their actions, not their words. Words don't actually mean anything without action behind them.

I'm a gay man, and I've definitely given out the occasional f slur pass. Why? Because I honestly think it's funny as fuck when my best friend of 20 years calls me that. He doesn't hate me, he knows and loves my partner like a sibling, and he is my brother. It would be so fucked if he got in some kind of actual trouble for that...

Ask her if you should get a shotgun and point it at the door anytime you hear human life on the other side. Hopefully at that point it will become clear that this is a stupid thing to do, and you can both move on.

Also, depending on how much she harps on this, definitely a red flag.

eliminating employee vacation

Man shut the fuck up, the only employee that got a vacation was you numbnuts