Wait, she's a pedophile too?
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I see so many people stanning her on hexbear after the Palestine thing.
I still think PSL is the better of the U$ parties, but I think it’s a mistake to not acknowledge that they have issues.
On election day of all days? And none of you people see this as an obvious attempt to suppress the vote support for PSL?
We are not a PSL instance, we are not run by PSL. But I will point out that there are certain aspects of Dem-Cent that might be helpful to understand. Namely that once a decision is made by the party the party adheres to that line in public. They do not break ranks or show dissension. Now we could say that the US as a whole has failed to field any other socialist party and therefore we as a whole as a movement have elected PSL as our representatives.
We don't owe them adhering to their party line if we're not members but I think we owe them not criticizing them, being tactful in our timing of criticism of them not to do so at the last minute in a way that inflames feelings against voting for them on election day.
Just as we do not criticize and air our problems with say Iran on the day they are at the height of danger and anti-western propaganda for a war against them, it's wise not to air our problems with PSL on this fucking day when all the signature work they've done to get on the ballot is on the fucking line.
Because there isn't time for many people to sort through those feelings and act dispassionately and the concrete impact of a post like this on election day mere hours before some people vote is people will avoid voting for PSL on the national ballot because of this and feeling icky if they do so.
So OP is costing the movement visible support. They are an enemy of socialism in my mind even if an unintentional one. Socialists need to be more mindful and thoughtful than OP has shown themselves capable of being.
No one, least of all me is saying we can't ever talk about this, that we have to be silent on this or that we can't criticize PSL. What I am saying is the time for this discussion was 48+ hours ago or 24 hours from now. That's a lot of time (this is no secret, we've known PSL would be the US candidate on the national level for 6+ months) and it's telling this question was deployed NOW. Not earlier when there was time and passions would recede and people would still make the logical choice to vote PSL as Marxists, but now when it can inflict maximum damage and suppression and cause maximum drama and strife.
OP you are engaging in my mind in unacceptable wrecker behavior.
You are attempting to suppress votes for the only anti-imperialist, socialist party on the ballot nationwide in the US on election day.
The time to ask this question was a week ago, a month ago, 3 days ago, time for people to have a discussion without a deadline looming to cast a ballot for them or not.
Doing this at the 11th hour reads to me as an attempt to suppress votes for them, to perhaps even attempt to get some lurkers to vote Democrat instead by causing issues and concern that they're voting for abusive people.
Since we're in the court, I move that OP be given a temp ban until the election is over and this thread be locked and removed as should all other discussion on this as wrecker behavior.
Why couldn't any of you have brought this up a week ago? A month ago? We've long been supporting PSL's candidates and discussing our imminent votes for them for some time and people would have been happy to discuss it. But there was silence, no threads, no major discussions on it. Now at this opportune moment you break ranks, you deploy these accusations in an inflammatory thread on election day without proper time for a discussion, raising emotional tensions against PSL right as we most need people to vote for them.
So why now? I'm disgusted by people dredging up this shit on this day of all days. It's transparent what it is. It isn't good faith, it isn't helpful or useful. Even if it's all true what are you going to do about it? How else are you going to signal on the ballot as an American a support for the agenda of socialism, a vote against war with China and Russia?
There is a time for discussion and a time for solidarity and closing of ranks and showing any left-leaning people who browse our instance that we support Claudia de la Cruz and they should too rather than voting Democrat. Today is a day for closing of ranks. Tomorrow will be a day for litigating any problems we may have with our movement.
This is peak western left in-fighting, ill and unacceptably timed.
Yeah. And honestly western intel loves using progressive sounding things to attack the left. They used fabricated rape allegations to try and extradite Assange for instance and if I was part of western intelligence it would be a go-to as it's just obviously so useful.
Now I'm sure it does happen, maybe PSL even has a big problem with it, maybe but on the other hand a certain skepticism is necessary balanced with the knowledge that for example Trots tend to form cults full of sexual abuse and predation. Any time you have members romancing and having sexual relations with others you're going to eventually end up with drama and accusations from people hurting each other intentionally or not and lashing out harshly in the aftermath of that hurt. Add in western intelligence, wreckers who aren't even paid, etc and you have a formula for disaster.
Isn't it interesting too that this thread pops up on election day when many here and linked instances might be thinking of voting for PSL's candidates? A little propaganda push at the last minute to push people to vote Democrat instead. The timing is unacceptable and I think for that reason it reeks of manipulation and even would be fair target for a lock and sinking until the election is over as the time to bring this up was a week ago as we've been discussing supporting PSL's candidate for months and only now is this deployed for maximum damage and disillusionment.
In fact that's what I suggest. Locking this and banning discussion on it until this evening. These people are attempting to cause the drama and dissuade people from voting for the only socialist, anti-imperialist party on the ballot is disgusting behavior. If people had issues they had plenty of time in the lead-up to vent while giving PSL's supporters time to respond. Instead this is deployed at the 11th hour to obviously suppress enthusiasm for the party on the ballot in the US on vote day. That's wrecker behavior, that's bad faith.
Once again showing the limits of understanding of a liberal worldview informed by western propaganda narratives that cast Russia (and China) as "authoritarian" and these nebulously defined bad anti-liberal actors while the west is cast as unquestionably good at its core despite openly supporting the most obvious and undeniable genocide in decades.
She's been good on Gaza lately but maybe she like so many in the west is doomed to inhabit an ignorant, anarchistic anti-war-ism that leads to the victims gulping down and vomiting back out western propaganda and suspiciously supporting a number of western uses of violence as "necessary".
Exactly. Don't just withhold presidential votes from them, don't vote for them in US Senate or House races since those both are involved in national policy including the national policy of extermination and genocide in Palestine.
It’s really hard to say. I could see the strategy of appealing to young men by telling them Trump and project 2025 are going to ban porn on top of the abortion issue pushing Kamala over the edge but right now I think Trump has an atomically small edge and seems ever so slightly more likely to win given how bad economic conditions are for working people and the tendency of Americans to change parties over things like that. Even if Trump loses if it’s close enough they can just pull a 2000 and steal it with lawyers and the Supreme Court so he has that going for him as well. Bourgeoisie in the tech sphere seem to be for Trump with Bezos and Musk seeming at least neutral or in Musk’s case all in.
There is also the possibility of working in an international company that might transfer you there, especially if you have language skills already.
There is risk with this move though in the years that follow.
Why? The US is seeking a decoupling and sanctions war on China that will likely mirror their moves against Russia which could easily prompt many western companies to pull out of China or reduce presence dramatically at which point OP you'd be scrambling against all your co-workers including native Chinese to get a job to be able to stay in China.
Of course China might mirror Russia's moves to absorb some of these companies in counter-sanctions but there's no guarantee that they'll go out of their way to protect and keep western workers who after all are largely white/western chauvinists who aren't particularly pro-China in most cases. Having permanent residency by this point means you'd be more likely be kept on, lacking it means it's easier for them to dismiss you and focus on their own people and problems.
Think that US corporate interests will stop such a plan? Maybe. Maybe not. The biggest companies in the US were trying to do business and expand into the USSR and had money to gain but the US government blocked them and threatened them. It denied them the right to make profit from an enemy to hurt that enemy. Just as it has done successfully with Russia. They'll put up so many measures that inflict compliance requirements and costs and roadblocks and just plain distractions and tariffs that most western companies will choose to voluntarily exit or draw-down presence greatly I believe.
I believe this will be over an instigated, US-led Taiwan declaration of independence that they will prompt their obedient puppets there in the DPP to make which will lead to either a mainland invasion or severe coercive measures that are adequate for the US to portray China as a bad guy threatening a good guy democracy and rally the "garden' of Europe on the side of liberalism with them to do to China what they now do to Russia. As we've seen with Russia it won't be complete or sudden but gradual turning of screws which prompts companies for ideological and financial reasons to leave. One must also remember things like Epstein, the point of which is to have compromising material on business leaders that government can leverage in instances like this to force them to act in the way they desire. And of course open government blackmail that companies can either do business with the US or China which prompts them to leave to save their larger western government contracts.
It's possible this won't actually happen but there are a lot of planners and people trying to make it happen and making the moves setting the stage for it happening so if that's your way to China I'd say don't slack on getting permanent residency as soon as possible.
Maybe, maybe not.
There's only one imperialist bloc that towers over all the others and sucks all the oxygen out of the air and that's the US led order compromising all of NATO, the EU, Australia, New Zealand, and hanger-on occupied Asian vassals like Japan, occupied Korea.
The most Russia can do for instance is align with anti-imperialist blocs like BRICS for protection and do some minor supporting of anti-US actors by proxy in Africa and elsewhere. Ukraine is going alright for Russia but it's a definite drain, they didn't want it to start with and made it worse with years of avoiding it, they still don't want it and they don't want another fight though the US is intent on trying to start more skirmishes between them and say Georgia and Moldova but neither present the kind of military that Ukraine fields and would last very long even if Russia had the appetite to confront their neo-liberal aggression against it and Russian people.
I could see say India or Brazil doing some regional imperialism but not against other potential imperialist powers like each other or Russia. These might at times butt up a little against US interests but I don't think it will escalate to open war because no one wants to fight the US. Maybe once the US has their Suez Canal moment and they look like a paper tiger more chances will be taken but even then I think that has to happen plus the end of US dollar hegemony as well otherwise they just ruin you or inflict great pain greater than the gains you could get through those financial means and sanctions. Mostly we see angling and hedging of bets. Various countries trying to do things for their own interests against US interests and with the interests of other powers or power blocs but avoiding pushing it so far that anyone wants to go to war over it. You see Turkey doing this kind of angling and there are countries like Hungary in Europe who try and maximize their own benefit by not being drawn too closely to the side of any one power and playing the various powers against each other while avoiding directly angering any of them to the point of confrontation.
There are Ukrainian fascist snipers who have been imported to Georgia recently....
Quoting here because this person admits they delete most of their comments after a week and I want context for my replies.
Calm the fuck down. Stop acting foolish.
There is a time and place for all things. Any other day, any day outside of today and maybe yesterday. Most of the year is an appropriate time. This day of all days is not okay. Cry about it because for one lousy day or two I think it's inappropriate to air this stuff given it doesn't even personally involve violations by the candidates and is just hurting them by association.
I don't think that's extreme. Given these are not new accusations, dredging them up at this moment is clearly sabotage meant to harm the votes they get and enthusiasm for the party and the larger movement. Again, it's fine to discuss these at a reasonable time and place. Unlike the Democrats whose reasonable time and place for dissension from their party is a few weeks every 2 years between midterms the time for this IMO is just about every day except election day and the days immediately before it. There have been months of time to bring this up during which I wouldn't bring these accusations, if they made these 24 hours later I also wouldn't care. But they didn't do that. They deployed them strategically at the worst possible moment. And when they've had all this time, months and months and years to discuss this given it wasn't a surprise Cruz is who we're voting for and she's PSL the fact they waited until now is not right.