NoneOfUrBusiness

Only if you don't understand the nuance of the word "jailed" here.

I guess it's "nice" to confirm that they're still killing Palestinians at random.

Oh it's the Magic The Gathering woman. It was a pleasant time forgetting she existed.

Do you meant that's not the middle?

Oh yeah.

That's what I thought for a long time. But when I look back at 2016 and I look at this one, I think he appealed to the center voter with promises of jobs and income.

I mean everyone, no matter their political views, cares about jobs and income. Being left or right wing is more about the way you believe that should be achieved (and how much you hate minorities). Trump didn't appeal to center voters with promises of jobs and income; he appealed to right wing voters with their version of jobs and income and other policies right wing voters support. Obama promised left wing voters their version of jobs and income. Hillary and Harris promised nobody's version of jobs and income.

That would have led to a landslide victory for the Dems.

Honestly, probably not really. It'd have likely led to a closer election by winning them Michigan, but the Democrats had a more fundamental problem than very unpopular foreign policy.

Lmao good catch.

Did the Belgians asdassinate you?

The short of it is that "things are going fine" messaging doesn't work when things decidedly aren't going fine. When asked about the economy she said she wouldn't do much different from Biden. And yet she wouldn't even confirm or deny when asked whether she would keep Lina Khan. The DNC's messaging screamed "we're dishonest corporate stooges who won't give straight answers ", because they are and also incompetent. In the dismal state of the American economy today do you think that would get votes?

I mean Obama's term had like a third of the great recession and the brunt of its effects. According to Wikipedia,

While the recession technically lasted from December 2007 – June 2009 (the nominal GDP trough), many important economic variables did not regain pre-recession (November or Q4 2007) levels until 2011–2016. For example, real GDP fell $650 billion (4.3%) and did not recover its $15 trillion pre-recession level until Q3 2011.[95] Household net worth, which reflects the value of both stock markets and housing prices, fell $11.5 trillion (17.3%) and did not regain its pre-recession level of $66.4 trillion until Q3 2012.

It's a miracle he even kept the presidency in these conditions. See also: Biden's unpopularity even though he was by all means a generally decent (if genocidal) president.

Our mistake was to think we lived in a better country than we do. Our mistake was to see the joy, the extraordinary balance between idealism and pragmatism, the energy, the generosity, the coalition-building of the Kamala Harris campaign and think that it must triumph over the politics of lies and resentment

Holy fuck the refusal to self-reflect. Was this guy even living in the same reality?

My bet is when the equal time law and similar bit the bullet. I think it was Reagan's era but my American history is pretty bad so don't quote me on it.

I mean that's basically what Obama did. It's what Trump does. If you promise 100% and only give 30% you'll be remembered as a good or good ish president. 60%+ and you're the greatest president of all time. But when you promise -10% you're just not gonna win.