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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (5 children)

rather than .... moving closer to the center to court mythical ‘moderate

Looking back at 2016 I think Trump won exactly because he went for the middle: middle working class. I know we all thought he was going hard right (and he did appeal to them for certain reasons), but he campaigned to the middle class and won them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

That's bot the middle we're talking about. Trump ran on right policy (and "policy) both elections and won.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Do you meant that's not the middle?

Trump ran on right policy (and "policy) both elections and won

That's what I thought for a long time. But when I look back at 2016 and I look at this one, I think he appealed to the center voter with promises of jobs and income. They liked that so much they keep saying/thinking/hoping that Trump won't do all the nutso right wing stuff he says he will. Go listen to voter interviews, they all say "nah he won't do mass deportation, it's all bluster.", or "He only means the criminals." It's unreal but that's what they think.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you meant that's not the middle?

Oh yeah.

That's what I thought for a long time. But when I look back at 2016 and I look at this one, I think he appealed to the center voter with promises of jobs and income.

I mean everyone, no matter their political views, cares about jobs and income. Being left or right wing is more about the way you believe that should be achieved (and how much you hate minorities). Trump didn't appeal to center voters with promises of jobs and income; he appealed to right wing voters with their version of jobs and income and other policies right wing voters support. Obama promised left wing voters their version of jobs and income. Hillary and Harris promised nobody's version of jobs and income.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

You know there is this big fat juicy, undecided, independent, center, whatever you want to call it, group that yes Trump did appeal to. You say, right wing version, left wing version, well those are eclipsed by the humongous center of the bell curve.

I don't think we're going to agree. I say center, you say right, I say center, you say right.

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