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You're free to bring it up again here in a month, but I think 'emotions are too hot for a productive discussion' is a good reason to put a temporary halt on it. A healthy discourse just isn't possible right now, and there's the wellbeing of both users and admins to think about here.

"Is it... good?"

I think you mean "Straight" person

Yeah, there were two choices, and it might shock you to learn I voted for Harris, just like I voted for Clinton back in 2016. I've been pushing people to the polls ever since, I've done walk-and-knocks, I've gone to town halls. How do you think I know people are disgusted with Democrats?

Democrats continuously fail to establish rapport with their voter base because they're consumed with the idea of 'reaching across the aisle,' and they're reaching across into fascism. Is it any fucking wonder, then, that they can't get votes? I guarantee less than one percent of Conservative voters changed their mind on Kamala because she promised to install Republicans in her cabinet. Democrats are trying to be the diet coke to Republican coke, and guess what? Coke drinkers don't drink diet coke when coke is on the fucking menu, quelle fucking suprise.

First off, I voted for Harris, so you can put your "moral stand" nonsense away; I know damn well how important this shit is. Second, the genocide in Palestine was happening either way and I've spent time and money before and after the election on causes to help Palestinians, because that's way more effective than one measly vote. Can you say the same?

Maybe direct this vitriol to your representatives instead of the people in this community?

I'm sorry, if a politician sees the polls that say "Don't back genocide" and still pledges to back genocide to pander to the mythical moderate conservative, why are people still obligated to vote for them? Because they're the lesser of two evils? Clearly they don't give a flying fuck what their constituents want.

When they chided "who else are you going to vote for?" In 2016, they got a resoundingly clear answer: "Nobody." But it's supposed to be different now? The Democrats need to step off the stage and progressives need to step up, because it's obvious they can't win elections on being Republican Lite.

I know I keep saying it, but that's ~10000 Democrats in Dearborn that showed up and deliberately withheld votes for Harris. That's not apathy, that's anger.

I've been carrying a tinfoil hat around for a while now - I think big D Democrats like Trump in the same way the Republicans like being the minority party, because it gives them both something to point at while they pick our pockets. Any party that was serious about defeating a fascist threat to the United States would have immediately stopped arms sales to Gaza when constituents polled 20 points in favor of ceasing the genocide in Palestine. Yet again Democrats played to money from Lockheed Martin and Boeing and Raytheon, and told us to hold our noses, and yet again enough voters told the DNC to fuck off by refusing to go to the polls for candidates who wouldn't represent them, and yet again we ended up with Republicans controlling all three branches of government.

If we even get another election in the states, the Democratic party needs to cease to exist so that a more progressive group can actually represent the people. And I know that sounds fucking insane, but the best case scenario if the Dems are still relevant in 2028 is that the pendulum swings back and they continue to sit with their thumbs up their asses waiting to lose again four to eight years later after once again disrenfranchising their base.

Democracy dies at WaPo

It had the lunchly cheese on it

https://marshallbrain.com/manna1

Oh good, someone finally built the Torment Nexus. I was so worried that the title "Don't Build the Torment Nexus" would have put them off of it.

I don't listen to polls anymore. I've already voted, I don't give a fuck about who's leading who.