Colloidal

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[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I read somewhere about it, might have been phoronix. Information about it tends to be stale. I changed kernels and didn't feel any difference, so went back to vanilla.

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 1 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

You said it right. Mozilla would die, not Firefox.

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't ignore it at all, I addressed it by saying it was shut down five years ago. Until they release something to the public, it's still unsupported.

Vertical tabs? PWAs don't even have tabs. Why are you bringing this up? The browser extension you mentioned is from a 3rd party (and I have tried in the past and gave up because it just didn't work, which was a far cry from the easy to use PWA support Firefox once had).

Look, just because we disagree, doesn't mean we can't be civil. I am not personally attacking you.

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)
  • WebRunner, cousin of XULRunner, was basically an implementation of PWA introduced 5-6 years before the acronym PWA was created. Discontinued 2011.
  • Firefox OS, 2013-2016, allowed you to run Web Apps as full fledged apps. Discontinued after Google unveiled PWAs.
  • Firefox support for PWA, introduced shortly after Google announced what a PWA was in 2016 (and realizing they had most of it already), was discontinued in 2020. To this day, Firefox doesn't support PWAs fully. You can't add an icon to a PWA to your desktop and have it run in its own window, which is basically what a PWA is.

So yeah, if you stretch the definition of PWA to not include all the requirements, I guess Firefox supports it since 2010. Or, if you look at it from another vantage point, you see the programmers innovating and creating things the public wants, only to be shutdown by corporate before it gets much steam.

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Was it originally waterproof? Do you want it to remain so? If yes to both, then I'd look for the right glue.

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

Latest android is what, 15 now? I'd say supporting the last 8 versions, going back to 2017, is a pretty long support window.

Edit: also, the oldest maintained android version is 13. Older versions aren't getting security fixes.

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

The pay isn't the only problem, it's not even the main problem. The problem is that Google money comes with strings attached. There's obvious corruption in the Mozilla corporation. Just as an example, Firefox was at the forefront of implementing PWA, before everyone else, before it was called PWA even. Google's money started really pouring in, and they dropped it. Then they kept axing features and not listening to their community, stopped doing research in things that users cared about and went off on tangents no one wanted (and are still doing that with AI). Mozilla kept losing market share at the same rate C-suite bonuses climbed.

Google's money is a cancer that needs to be excised. Mozilla can still go back to being the amazing company it was before, but only if that money is gone.

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

Nah, it's vital for the CEO's pay. Firefox can survive on its own just fine. Perhaps even better.

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Such a low bar though.

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But do they live in caves, though?

[–] Colloidal@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

What is cop shot?

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